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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Cortez91, May 8, 2017.

  1. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    By listening to people who are better at the job.
     
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  2. GLP

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    So on that basis, all the players that are managed by managers who didn't play at a similarly high standard of football as the players they are managing should be ignored?
     
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  3. BrAdY

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    well that's boro relegated
     
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  4. bum_chinned_crab

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    No, because the managers aren't playing football. You're comparing apples and pears.
     
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  5. GLP

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    No, not at all. You said they had to be better. Look at all those managers that had very modest football careers that have gone on to manage at the very top. Ferguson, Mourinho, Silva. They quite clearly weren't better footballers than the footballers they are coaching. Using your analogy they shouldn't pay any attention because as footballers these managers weren't very good.
     
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    Alan is Steve..
     
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  7. BobbyD

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    So basically, Carragher is an unknown manager, same with Henry and Neville has failed as a manager. They should never ever criticise any managers ever. They can't criticise any aspects of any manager even when they are blinding wrong or have made mistakes. David Moyes you're free to do whatever you want.
     
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  8. PattyNchips2

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    Gary Neville? if you knew anything about football, you'd be a successful manager.................... shame you sank like a ****ing stone you prick
     
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  9. GEvans76

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    It's all irrelevant.
    Saturdays result killed us.
     
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  10. PattyNchips2

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    not technically.
     
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  11. originallambrettaman

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    Gary Neville's by far the best pundit and should carry on doing exactly what he's doing, he speaks more sense than the rest of them put together.
     
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  12. bum_chinned_crab

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    Wasn't it you who said yesterday to someone - and I'm paraphrasing - "do you who has never done the job really want a debate with someone who has 30 years experience of it?"
     
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    I think you'll find Gary Neville has quite a lot of experience in football.
     
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  14. Chazz Rheinhold

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    But nothing as a manager.
    In fact harly any of them have any or if they do it's poor.
     
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    Surely football pundit and football manager are not particularly similar jobs anyway.
     
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    And this whole conversation came about because he criticised someone who has been a success in a job that he failed in.
     
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  17. bum_chinned_crab

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    They're nothing like each other and that's the crux of my entire point. People cut him slack and blame circumstances at Valencia 'beyond his control' because they like him on the telly. Something the same people would never do for other managers in exactly the same position.
     
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  18. Plum

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    This notion of being unable to criticize someone unless you've done the same job to the same level or better is a nonsense. So Gary Neville failed as a manager, if he understands why he failed and he sees the same mistakes being made by someone else why on earth shouldn't he flag it up?
     
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  19. originallambrettaman

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    He's the only pundit who's been a player, a manager and a club owner, he always talks sense and I don't think one failed stint in management should prevent him from commenting on anything he wants.

    Iain Dowie's had successful stints as a manager, presumably he'd be okay being critical?
     
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  20. bum_chinned_crab

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    Yep.
     
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