The hospital development is to build flats etc for hospital staff and possibly visitors and maybe some as halfway from hospital to nursing home . My point on the First Lane one is all the flood relief surrounds it , I walk past it regularly and to be honest despite ll the rain this last 6 months it has just a an inch or two of water on it at most - which suggests it’s not catching any off the Tranby hill etc . The farmers field is never under water , the Syd Smith pitches were always good to play on . Just an idea
Tan seem to be a bit pissed off with the Council. https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/spo...kCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar
That doesn’t change the fact that the stadium is currently rent fee, those costs would still have to be paid regardless of whether it’s leased or owned.
Even Adam Pearson hit a brick wall with Hull City Council which was one of the reasons he sold us as he couldn't take us any furthur without outside devlopment. The training ground is in the East Riding so not HCC problem. Before City moved into Millhouse Woods Lane it was Northern Foods Sports Ground. I had medical treatment there last year and personally thought it was pretty decent until I saw what Burnley have built. Many won't like it but even Ehab approached the Water Company to buy some land for expansion......another brick wall. I also don't think the land is worth a lot because of the very restrictive access to it, so even selling it for housing and moving on may not be an option. We are lucky the council sold the KC Shares when they did and actually built a sports stadium in the first place. I said at the time it was too small and we should have really gone for it when we had the money, but I cannot remember anyone speaking up for football at the time. We were a 4th division club then following on from 20/30 years of lower league football and someone mistakenly courted Sports England/The FA? and Trevor ****ing Brooking, bending over to everything he said in order to gain a measly £1m towards the project, which incidently still came in under budget. I didn't know until quite recently that HCC also bought land and rehoused West Hull Amateur RL club out of the Stadium fund. No mention of the cricket club though, or any thought to where our other teams would play. So, nutshell, the stadium was a great idea at the time, something I never thought HCC would build. I would have prefared us to stay at Boothferry park and develop that but that ship sailed when we sold off land at the bottom of Kempton Road...then the North Stand. But it is too small to sustain a PL club long term. If we ever became one. If we do reach the promised land again I can see a senario similar to previous one's, these owners get us there, then cash us in and let someone else sort out the problems with the council, because that brick wall will never go away. Or change our name to Hull Kingston Rovers and doors suddenly start to open....?????
After reading that in the HDM from Tan I am now understanding why the Allams started threatening to build another stadium (remember the photo of them stood in the field with plans) guess it was a plot to try get the council to cooperate and not just to be dicks after all.
Council leader Mike Ross tweeted this earlier today “Let's meet again @TanKeslerHCAFC. I was told new plans were being drawn up. Happy to sit down any time and see where this has got to” I do happen to know he’s telling the truth about being told new plans were coming. https://x.com/cllrmikeross/status/1753703732909412683?s=46&t=DAxwWj15XaMBwCrrY9gKFQ
There’s two major issues with building the training ground next to the stadium. The first is that the council won’t give up the fair site. The second is that it’s a rubbish idea. The sooner the club separate the extension of the ground/extended lease, from the development of new training facilities, the better for all concerned.
Not going to rehash the well trodden arguments, but the Allams were hugely complicit in the lack of relationship with the council. The current owners will be much easier for the council to deal with BUT it will still be a tricky minefield for people who rely on voters to vote for them (as opposed to business owners) to navigate when many voters don’t care about sports and there is the heritage of the fair getting in the way. Not insurmountable maybe, but definitely tricky and can’t be underestimated
The Lawns in Cottingham (which was mentioned earlier in the thread) would be a good shout. Its a large area, currently has a Refectory which was refurbished shortly before the place closed down, and two further football pitches down Park Lane. It's fairly secure and only overlooked by a few houses. My understanding is that it is two separate lots- The Lawns and Ferens Hall (which is the listed bit). The good residents of Cottingham would be so delighted it wasn't going to be housing they would wave through any plans
Oh dear. Here we go again. As we feared, this will likely really test the resolve of Acun and Tan. -> The first is that the council won’t give up the fair site. Agree. -> The second is that it’s a rubbish idea. It isn't. It could be amazing if it happened as they envision. Unfortunately it won't. -> The sooner the club separate the extension of the ground/extended lease, from the development of new training facilities, the better for all concerned. Unfortunately, yes.
I'm sure years ago, there was a muted plan to place the HCAFC training ground on the site of Setting Dyke school, but I've got to admit I may have dreamed that one up.
That’s my main issue with the Walton Street site. You’ve got roads, housing, parkland, railway and a newt hotspot fencing in a pretty small site on all sides. It’s just not suitable for a basic training ground, never mind any expansion in the future. That coupled with extremely poor access with the city’s congested roads mean it could easily become a white elephant in the future.
There's no way the council are letting City build on the fair ground site anyway, and the park would also be problematical so its going to be elsewhere.
