Yeah, but that 23 year old actually won't play for NUFC so we whether we agree with it or not it's better to have a first choice, decent striker playing. I don't think Mitro was ever any good, but it doesn't matter anymore - it's time to move on. Decent move by the club, that - Anderlecht will get the best out of him, he'll head to the World Cup and with a bit of luck turn into a £20m striker by August!!!!
I'm disappointed with the Mitrovic sale. I think he is better than a lot of people think. The problem is divides opinion 4 ways. 1.You have those just think for a 23 yr old target man, he looks quite useful. 2. There are those who are fan boys and love his aggression, passion and to be honest probably don't help the lad as he plays up to it. 3. You have those who think he's a crap footballer 4. Finally you have those who due to his ill discipline/Rafa love in are somewhat biased against him One thing for certain though I think everyone would agree on. While Rafa is in charge of this football team, its a waste of time and money to have him on the books. He will never ever play under him. Personally I don't want Rafa sacked. So whilst I am disappointed about Mitrovic and feels its partly a failure on Rafa's part to manage his personality, get the best out of him, I am fully behind swapping him for Slimani. You might as well have someone who can help us out of this ****.
Pretty well summed up. I'm in the 1+2 camp from above. Mitro going on loan may well work out a good move I agree. If he keeps his head down, nose clean and bangs the goals in Rafa may well see a different side to him and welcome him back next season, either that or we can demand a reasonable fee for him £20m+ i don't think is unreasonable if proven to do the business. If his loan deal goes tits up cos he's suspended a lot or doesn't do the business in front of goal then we're no further forward than we are now I guess, nor are we any worse off. Maybe they're gambling on the former
Well summarised. I'm in the "3" camp, I think he was one of those who's just better through hazy, emotional memory than in actual person. He was fairly hopeless at times, and in my opinion his wastefulness - against Villa in particular - was a contributor in our relegation. We hammered Spurs....once he'd been sent off!! The idea of Mitrovic was great. Just didn't work.
I must be in my own camp that wanted to believe he would be great because he beat his chest and kissed the badge a bit but ultimately over time realised he's a below-par player that can't do jack **** without considerable space or time and is a ticking time-bomb. You could put me in the three/ four camp, but I like to be different. 3.5 for moi
I refer you to my previous post: Show me better goals from Joselu and Gayle. No doubt Mitro isn't World Class but he is better than what we have (inc ****ani).
There was, like, one decent goal! I think Gayle's ****, yet if you go on Youtube and search for his goals he's scored quite a few decent ones over the years, a good few for us last year. Also Joselu, worse than ****, has bagged a decent few for Hanover and Stoke. Mate, they're all crap, in their own way. I can't work out why you're saying "show me better from Joselu and Gayle" like I've ever said they're any good!!! Slimani's record in Portugal's pretty good, and they do have a good league with good players. We're literally at the bottom of the barrel with Lee Charnley, mate - Slimani is nothing short of a miracle.
One good one??? Nearly every goal in that video is better than anything I've seen from Joselu or Gayle in a black and white shirt!!! As I say I get the need for better strikers, what I don't get is that we've let our best striker go and are happy to bring in another lad who WILL NOT score enough goals to keep us up. If Slimani scores more than 7 goals its a reasonable loan deal for us but the fact Joselu and Gayle are still here is beyond a joke.
Including the penalty? Rose tinted cocktacles. Like I say, regardless of whether you rate Mitro or not, it's time to get over it. He. Is. Gone. Let's turn attention to supporting Slimani and hope he scores the goals to keep us up. We borrowed Kenedy for crosses and Slimani for headers. Let's see what happens. And if it doesn't work, Slimani, Kenedy and Rafa will go, Mitro will be back to prove us one of us right!
As I said, he divides opinion I think what is often forgotten about Mitro is the type of striker he is and his age. Target men come into their own a lot later. Look at Slimani. He was a 1 in 3 man in Algeria, then Portugal until 3 seasons ago. Then all of a sudden he is banging them in, looking really useful and moving for 30m. Shearer at Southampton was a 1 in 3.5 striker up until the age of about 23. Batistuta even until the age of 22-23 wasn't ripping it up. Luca Toni was in and out at a low level until 24-25. Drogba until he was 24-25 wasn't exactly tearing up ligue 2 let alone 1. Christian Vieri turned a corner at 22-23. Fernando Llorente was not really fully appreciated or productive until about 23. Some more physical strikers just need a bit more time. I'm not saying he is as good as those mentioned, I just think he will be a whole lot more useful in 2 years time. The loan may do him the world of good.
My worry is his maturity. The main image that sticks in my mind of Mitro is of him pleading with Ritchie to take the penalty against PNE for his hat-trick. That kind of petulance makes him a liability at the moment, and he'd be twice the player (and stand a chance of getting in a Rafa starting XI) if he behaved a little more professionally.
His biggest problem in getting to that level is that he's not a very intelligent footballer. He needs to read situations better to improve otherwise he has all the attributes physically. OK, maybe pace is a problem. And finishing. Hmmm, maybe he'll not reach those levels after all. Lower level leagues like Belgium he'll probably look like a world beater.
Seriously I don't understand where people get this stuff from? Any striker in their right mind would beg, borrow and steal to take a pen for their hat-trick? Ask Alan Shearer if he'd have let anyone else take the pen if Shearer was on a hat trick. Even if they were designated taker! I see it everywhere from Grass roots to the EPL every year. Lack of maturity/professionalism? Seriously? I mean FFS football is full of over grown man-children with no respect for anyone but their own. These are genuine questions for you: Has he set his bathroom alight shooting fireworks in a house? Has he shot the youth team players with BB Guns? Has he assaulted anyone inside or outside out of the club - NUFC or Weatherspoons? Been caught banging hookers? Been arrested for raping a drunk bird? Caught pissing in the streets? Caught smoking? Any major bust ups in training? Any reports of him not showing up or even lateness? What exactly has he done to be labeled unprofessional/immature? A few red cards is what. The one against West Ham was farcical anyway so possible 2 reds and he's labeled unprofessional. But because Rafa is willing to cut his nose off to spite his face we'll all sell him down the river!
Not that disappointed to see him go. I like the lad and he will get the chance he needs to play first team football in the run up to the world cup. Not too woried about missing him either, as it won't be for long. Once Charnley finds out he can sign a player who has been knocking in goals for Anderlecht for free this summer, he will decide we should be in for him.
Couldn't have put it better myself mate. I hope he does well at Anderlecht, we clearly saw something in him when he was there first time round to make us part with £16m in cash for him. I for one would love to see him back here and given a proper run in the team. At least he'll get pitch time for the rest of the season and with the world cup coming up hopefully he can win the right people over at the club and convince them that he has a place/future with us. He's only 23 FFS.
I get both of these counts too. However there have been some really petulant players who have taken time to mature. I think his finishing is ok to be honest. his goal record suggests it is. The problem is he has had no run of games in 2-3 years here. Some of that is of course down to his own doing. I think if he was calmer his footballing ability would come to the fore. When he has his sensible head on, he is a handful, but also creates chances. The problem is his head isn't screwed on most of the time. I could defend some things but that Lanzini thing was ridiculous. To be fair away from the pitch he is ultra professional. Rafa has said a few times he trains well, and he has barely moaned despite being completely shunned. Maybe he can go to Anderlecht, get some games, have a good world cup and then get himself a decent move. Assuming Rafa is here, he has to leave regardless of how his loan goes. Rafa is far too stubborn to go back to him.
