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Millwall Vs IPSWICH TOWN - Predict A Score

Discussion in 'Ipswich Town' started by johnnywarksmoustache, Jan 17, 2014.

  1. Hoppersblue10

    Hoppersblue10 Well-Known Member

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    Ok, some may not like what Spanish has to say but not what all he says is to far from the truth;

    MM would probably be one of the first to admit to having a "bad day at the office", subbing the sub never looks good for a manager, and changing formation 4-5 times during a game also tells its own story.? This was pointed out by Micky Mills as summariser today.
    By all accounts the goal was a freak but going forward it seems (radio commentary granted) that we were pretty toothless.

    We are sadly very short on quality in the middle of the park, Hyam has picked up what could be a nasty injury that will keep him out for sometime, as for Tabb, Edwards & Tunnicliffe it is getting increasingly difficult to see what they bring to the party.

    For me Hunt & Taylor should be starting & I would much prefer to have the likes of Marriot & Hewitt as options on our bench ahead of Tabb & the pathetic Nouble. The youngsters are surely not going to be any worse than some we have in the 1st team squad at this time.

    Reinforcements are needed, cover at CB and a couple of ball players in the middle, if they are loanees so be it.

    Also the change around in our form is worrying, in the space of a few weeks we have gone from 2nd behind Derby to now in the bottom 6.!
     
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  2. Spanish

    Spanish Well-Known Member

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    Hoppers, worryingly Mick said he thought Tabb done great, sounded to me like Tabb was ****e and on twtd they are not best pleased and fed up with the same old ****e spouted from MM.
    Our midfield seems sooo lacking in creativity etc and i agree with you 100% with the idea of bringing in some of the younger players, hell they are gonna be needed sooner rather than later so why not blood them in gently now? Not as if we are going to stand a chance of troubling the top six is it?
     
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  3. Spanish

    Spanish Well-Known Member

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    Also i am very intersted in how many others out there want ME out and dont care if it means that our club fold?
    Personally i have never heard anything so damn annoying, nor stupidly insane but maybe there are more of you who think the same as Warky.
     
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  4. WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM

    WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM Well-Known Member

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    Your not the first person to write off our chances of troubling the top six Spanish..............the last time i heard that said low and behold 8 weeks later and we sat in sixth.....
     
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  5. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    Evans is killing this football club but I guess there are some who are happy to just bury their heads in the sand and put up with this year after year. I suppose it's just too easy to blame the current manager rather than the man who is really to blame! The man who brought us Simon Clegg, Roy Keane, Paul Jewell and debts of 82 Million Quid!
     
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  6. Hoppersblue10

    Hoppersblue10 Well-Known Member

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    Tabb is currently on 1.3 player rating on TWTD along with Nouble, admittedly the majority of these votes are "Radio votes" so for MM to say Tabb done great is just a manager publicly backing his players, that in itself is what I would expect.

    From what I have seen of Tabb this season he has been woeful, no confidence in possession of the ball, unable to make an impact on the team, surprisingly his best attribute is his ability in the air...take note Nouble.!

    Worrying times at the moment, the wheels are a bit loose MM needs to get the wrench out and tighten things up, I still have plenty of faith in MM & TC I just wish at times they thought outside the box.!
     
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  7. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you Hoppers but given the lack of ambition shown by our invisible owner this will only get worse! Wee all pretty much said that a top ten finish this year will be progress but it's a real shame that with a little investment into the team we could be achieving a whole lot more!
     
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  8. Guru of Ipswich

    Guru of Ipswich Well-Known Member

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    **** me, have i stumbled on the budgie board!

    We are having a bad run, its not like we didn't expect it. We do need players but its work in progress.
     
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  9. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    No you are on the Town board mate but as you can see Spanish stopped sucking Ollie's Cock and decided to spout all his usual anti MM nonsense!
     
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  10. Guru of Ipswich

    Guru of Ipswich Well-Known Member

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    I really can't see why anybody can fault MM, and what he has done on **** all money.

    We didn't even have 11 players to call our own in the summer, and he has got us in the top half.
     
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  11. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    Ah but you see if Holloway had come we would now be in the Champions League places in the Premiership!
     
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  12. Spanish

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    Did i hear a little budgie chirp? Oh look it was Warky coming out of Micks arse for a breather!!
    Sorry guys but Mick is sooo limited tactically it is unbelievable, thats not the players or MEś fault but hey, carry on dreaming and blaming everyone except the manager. Who picks the team? Who thinks the likes of Tabb and Nouble are good enough? Who changes formation to counteract lesser oposition rather than letting them worry about us? Who brings in loanees like the lad from Villa but doesnt play them coz they aint good enough?
    Heres a clue Warky, it aint ME!!
     
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  13. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    Most Ipswich posters come on here when we win lose or draw but then there is someone who only posts when we lose and takes delight in us losing! How very sad....
     
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  14. Mike_Holmes1990

    Mike_Holmes1990 Well-Known Member

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    Spanish - Not everything is MMs fault
    JWM - Money, doesnt solve everything, i would much rather us be tight with the spending this season, which is the rebuilding season, than continue throwing money at at 11 new player every transfer window. We could feasibly find a better player in every position, it won't guaruntee anything. MM's transfers have hardly been faultless either

    Tunnicliffe adds nothing, Graham doesn't play, Nouble blows lukewarm to cold, Tabb has been roundly criticised for not performing this season. The only stand out MM signing at the moment is McGoldrick, and even he only scores in spurts.

    I have no problem with MM as Manager, and maybe it could be argued he would be cleverer with the money than the previous two. Although, for arguments sake - Jewell found Cresswell - and didn't pay alot for him, Clegg messed up bringing Austin in (we blamed Clegg at the time, we cant flip flop just to pin the blame on ME or PJ - the money for the transfer was evidently approved from ME anyway), Hewitts not really had that long a run in the side so is hard to judge but seems to show good potential -also PJ.

    Nothing really stands out during the Keane era, but there was a lot of individual talent he brought in but just couldn't harness. Players like Priskin, Leadbitter, Fulop were broughtin to relative fanfare and cheers. Fulop remains IMO our last reliable Goalkeeper. Gerken's been playing well but you get the sense that he's surprising even himself - which is no bad thing, just thing Fulop was that bit better.
    It was a dark era though when many, including myself, were sucked in by the thought that money would success equal success. It's not really a mindset I want to go back to, I much prefer us returning to letting a manager develop a squad, even if we do have to suffer many frustrating bumps along the way.

    ME's relationship with the club is strange. I don't understand or agree with the interest he charges on our debt, but in the same post I you cant blame lack of investment and accuse him of putting us in debt - by restricting the transfer funds and player wage funds (not that we know what SEB and Hunt are on) its only going to help reduce the debt.

    (As fans we can help out by actually going to games -but i'm not officially making that point because I have a very poor attendance record).

    The way I see it, in everyway this season has so far been an upward trend, may lack style and recent form hasn't been great but if MM can turn us around from the bottom of the table he can turn us around while we're in 10th. There is no need to worry. It will be slow drawn out process, there may not be a definite x year plan set out by anybody - apart from the 50% youth target - but the next few years will see us as serious promotion challengers and hope fully a return to the premier league.

    Last time we sacked a manager for having us competing in the top half we embarked on the dark journey of the past 5 years, let's not do it again.

    Amendment -Skuse, Gerks -decent MM signings but the point was giving him money wont guarantee good players
     
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  15. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    McCarthy's done a good job, the board should have backed him in January. In football you have to improve your squad just to stay at the same level. If you don't, you go backwards.

    Spanish, not every signing will work, although I never wanted to sign that Villa lad, seemed pointless. We need permanent players.
     
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  16. Mike_Holmes1990

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    January's not over yet, and besides Hunt and SEB are yet to reach full match fitness. They have been in-season/post summer window additions.

    Tunnicliffe, in all technicality was a January investment - we had to 'invest' again to renew the loan.

    We also know that
    A. We looking for some defensive reinforcements.
    B. Mick plays transfers very close to his chest.
    C. Mick likes a squad of 20, -SEB and Hunt bring us over that and some of the original 20 are out on-loan - which explains loan only policy, leading onto
    D. Micks Loans last seasons very much operated as a 'try before you buy'. Mick will probably be beginning to think about a summer strategy.
     
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  17. TC (Lovely Geezer)

    TC (Lovely Geezer) Well-Known Member

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    Was a case of bad timing today lads - if you had played us 2 weeks before, you would have won easily today.
    Holloway has completely energised the club since though - players and fans alike.
    Been a breath of fresh air and we have a football team again - our players were well up for it today - all of them gave 100% and the crowd responded accordingly.
    Thought your support was good too - 1,398 which is a damn site more than most teams. MM was graceful in defeat too which he should be applauded for!!
     
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  18. THE ROAR

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    Just remember what mick did for you last season,olly will hopefully do for us, short mems and all that tractor boys!!.you might have been in leaque 1 .
     
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  19. itfcptc

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    OMG overreation here or what. Little less than a couple of weeks ago, we were all singing Micks praises, I believe even Spanish said he was warming to him after a 9 game unbeaten streak, now 2 games later and it's Mick is **** ME isn't investing enough, does anyone mind if I just shout PERSPECTIVE, PERSPECTIVE, PERSPECTIVE, PERSPECTIVE, PERSPECTIVE??? JEEEZ How can peoples opinions change so quickly??
     
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  20. JonahJameson

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    Cressy was hardly unknown before we bought him, the EADT journo covering Colchester had him down as an outstanding Lg 1 prospect for a start:

    http://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town/jewell_should_look_to_league_one_s_rising_stars_1_916117

    Ditto Hewitt. Big clubs had been sniffing for some time but hip injuries had calmed it all down.

    I’m not sure Warky was saying he wants ME to go AND for the club to fold, surely? Anyway, are we now on a month to month income & expenditure footing to avoid going under without a multi-millionaire and his corporate group in charge?

    First, ME surely can’t sell without a buyer. He owns the shares making up 87.5% of the whole shebang and unless there’s summat I’ve missed about company law they’re not the sort of things you can wistfully make homeless. Besides which, he (apparently) has 36M personally tied up in shares from the initial purchase and his multitudinous group companies would be left with Christ knows how many £Ms worth of loans to a football club which would no longer be part of the fold.

    Regarding the situation at Southampton, some journo on the radio mentioned the current CEO (uninterested in football) would be looking to offload the club and should get at least 150M for it. That’s the only way ME and his companies are ever going to break even on all this (I.E., get us up), never mind make a profit, and we aren’t worth a carrot at the moment.

    Then, there’s all the cost cutting and Scrooge-(pre-ghostly visits)-like behaviour in the transfer market – despite us having our first good manager since Royle (with apologies to Jim, who at least didn’t take us backwards like the last two clowns). Our next set of annual accounts might look grim because it will probably have some of the after-effects of the Keane-Jewell clown manager clean up, but are we now having to be continually bailed out by ME Group loans or are we now more or less breaking even? I’ve no idea not being the Director of Finance or whatever, but you’d hope all this horrible stinginess is getting us somewhere in terms of not folding if the ME Group loan pipeline stops.

    ME did “invest” heavily at first, so the recent miserly behaviour must some have some rationale apart from being miserly. He put in millions for Magilton and Keane, not knowing we were going to get 4.5 for Walters (pre-ME Jim signing) and whatever we’ve received for Wickham (much of the 8M was dependant on appearance etc). Keane was beyond disastrous for the club and when ME was sanctioning millions for the wastes of space that were Priskin, Martin, Edwards, Leadbitter et al (please don’t pretend Mick, Royle or almost anyone else couldn’t have got a better right midfielder for a million than Edwards, a better central midfielder for two million that Leadbitter etc) he wasn’t expecting to be looking at relegation and up to his neck in an organisation that owed him 36M plus interest and his companies 80M.

    If ME went, it would be because he’d managed to sell. And who’d buy the club in its current state unless they believed they could get us up to make to make the purchase worthwhile.
     
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