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Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by RobEllious, Sep 23, 2017.

  1. Albert's Chip Shop

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    We need to keep Pardew we’ll away from the North East whilst a deal is being done. What say you Fredor? @Patrick Bateman
     
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  2. Hugh Briss

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    I can't agree.

    You look at the top clubs now, they are investing heavily, winning games, gathering more fans (everyone loves a winner!) and making their club a global brand.

    Newcastle United could easily join these 'elite' clubs.

    The support is there. The right Manager is there.

    All that's lacking is the finance to get NUFC back to the level they were at 15 years ago.

    Sure, the game has evolved and we're not talking loyal players or one-club careers anymore, but getting the best players etc depends on the financial outlay.

    Speculate to accumulate? I remember it well! :emoticon-0103-cool:
     
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  3. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    According to Caulkin, Staveley met Justin Barnes and Keith Bishop- obviously. What I was shocked and caused me to laugh out loud was that Tea Boy was also present - like he would be of use both to the current regime and any potential future regime. <laugh>
     
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  4. Brian Storm

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    Not interested in your attempt to prevent the gathered evidence from the Tax raid being processed then? Well it's been knocked back, raids have been ruled lawful and your attempt of a cover up foiled.

    Oh dear. Must be something with it if you're throwing money at legal fees to try and prevent it being investigated. :emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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  5. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    Or just absolutely nothing in it whatsoever.
     
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  6. Brian Storm

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    Your club just tried and failed to block a criminal investigation. Aye nowt in it at all. <laugh><doh>
     
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  7. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    No, they tried to block an illegal approach.

    We all know Fat Mike is a dodgy little ****er and seeing as nothing appears to have come to harm for the Hammers I am positive nothing will be linked to us either other than allegedly dodgy French people.
     
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  8. Brian Storm

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    No, it was legal. That's the point. Court just ruled it legal. Now they can process the evidence they've siezed which your club tried to block.

    West Ham haven't been cleared, it's still on going. Makes no difference to you anyway, you're called Newcastle not West Ham. <laugh>
     
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  9. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    But they challenged the legality of it. Rightly or wrongly - if they genuinely knew it was legal then this would only be a delay tactic nothing more and for no real purpose!

    Anyways, hows Sunderland getting on? <laugh>
     
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  10. Brian Storm

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    Why would it matter if it was legal or not if there was nothing to hide? The route taken sound like delay tactics is if ever there was one. It's held up a criminal investigation for nearly 5 months. That could be the difference in guaranteeing extra TV money before any points deductions and fines are dished out.

    Nice attempt at side stepping. Like you don't have a 3 year old thread for Sunderland <laugh><doh>You want to come talk about Sunderland you know where our board is.
     
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  11. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    I do but we all know how touchy some of them are!
     
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  12. Brian Storm

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    Still side stepping. Weak.<laugh><doh> I'll just leave you alone, you can stop squirming uncomfortably now. <ok>:)
     
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  13. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    Oh aye, squirmy squirmy squirmy.

    Still think it is much ado about nothing.
     
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  14. Brian Storm

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    Newcastle United 'abused tax system', HMRC alleges

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    Image captionTax officials raided St James' Park and West Ham's ground in April
    Newcastle United "systematically abused" the tax system to "secretly" make payments to agents and players during transfers, a court has heard.

    The allegations emerged after the Tyneside club challenged a raid by HM Revenue and Customs in April.

    United argued no reasonable grounds existed for believing it had engaged in tax fraud, but High Court judges ruled the warrants were "lawfully issued".

    The club said it was "disappointed" and "considering its options".

    St James' Park and West Ham's London Stadium were raided as part of a £5m fraud investigation.

    Business and financial records were seized, along with computers and mobile phones, and Newcastle's managing director Lee Charnley was among several men arrested and later released without charge.

    The club challenged the legality of the search-and-seize orders obtained by HMRC, and a hearing has been held at Leeds Crown Court.

    'Secret' payments
    HMRC argued that reasonable grounds existed for believing Newcastle United was ''knowingly involved'' in a multimillion-pound tax fraud, and the club's application for judicial view was dismissed.

    The full judgement has now been published.

    It reveals Operation Loom is looking into whether the club knew payments to agents were being "secretly" funnelled to other unlicensed agents and players themselves in a bid to circumvent income tax and National Insurance.

    Regarding Demba Ba's transfer to Newcastle from West Ham, HMRC said: "It appears NUFC paid agent's fees for services of £1.9m in full knowledge that the majority would be passed on to other agents... and to a company associated with the player."

    There were "further suspicions" arising out of his transfer to Chelsea in January 2013.

    HMRC said it believed "NUFC systematically abused the tax system... and all payments to agents made were potentially the subject of criminal proceedings".

    A spokesman for HMRC said: "We are very pleased with the court's decision which we are studying in detail. We do not comment on individual cases or ongoing investigations."

    Newcastle United said in a statement: "We are disappointed with this decision given the court's findings.

    "We are considering all of our options with our advisers, including whether to pursue an appeal."
     
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  15. Sheikh_of_Araby

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    Assuming it was a judicial review of the raid and they lost. Hardly evidence of a criminal conspiracy. We challenged the legality of the warrants and that alone proves nothing. Innocent until proven guilty.

    It's not like the club knowingly let a sex offender who admitted to a senior club official and the manager, that he had groomed an underage girl, play for the first team to help keep them in the Premier League is it?
     
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  16. RobEllious

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    Hey your sidestepping.







    Kind of like Adam Johnson getting into his car on the way to meet that 15 year old.
     
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  17. Merino's Ballerina Feet

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    Says the supporter* of a club who knowingly harboured a wrong un and who’s fan base openly sang and joked about his horrible behaviour.

    *not sure if you support your team anymore as most of your plastic fickle fans have given up. <laugh>

    <badger>
     
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  18. Merino's Ballerina Feet

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    It’s okay though because he was their star man when they won the 6 in a row cup. Mackems forget that their world class achievement was on the back of a nonce’s efforts.

    B...b.....but six in a row marra. :emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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  19. Brian Storm

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  20. Lord Jonjomort

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