No doubt with michu being offered around and canas and poz sitting in the stand There has been serious **** going on with the players. I Think too many of our old Guard have had too much to say behind the scenes, we now have one as a manager , all things considered he is now the one in the driving Seat and his wishes need to be respected. I dont like the fact that 3 good players seem to be on the way out because of alleged fallings out and loyalty issues, it smacks of hypocrosey especially when the likes of monk,tate,gower,ash and britton had enough to say about sousa and laudrup especially on laudrups first pre season trip to USA . The board should have done much better in managing the issues but the crux of it all is that our board have the heart in the right place and do what they Think is right for the club, that we cannot doubt,right or wrong. People have failed to mention how much of a person of integrity michu is. He could have left after one season but stayed loyal to swansea and his manager, ash williams is polar Opposite in that respect. What annoyed michu so much that a fine loyal commited player who always gave 100% for the team either wants out or is being moved out ? If laudrup was so terrible why did we do so well under him overall? Something went tits up big time and i Think the old Guard started to not buy into laudrups ideas purely because it was going to be at a personal dis advantage to them . Monk is now in charge and i know he Will die for the cause, but when we talking about moving a player like michu on because of his attitude etc,etc something is wrong somewhere. Its like getting rid of trundle at his peak in real terms but for some reason the spin has Made it possible for this to happen with hardly a ripple ! I just hope we Are in silly season overdrive or a few heart to hearts can sort things out. If monk doesnt start well all this Will come back to haunt him, maybe the spanish lads Are total cnuts but we have always had a strong spanish armarda here since martinez days, so i cant see what the issues Are, unless its a total lack of respect for monk of course,which Will beg the question , why? Chico and monk fighting over banter was obviously not the real reason! So many sub plots The mind boggles!
Agree with Norway - whatever happens, Monk and the Board will stand or fall by the decisions they take now and we'll have to wait and see. Lib: "Laudrup saw something in him,and I would back his judgement against any expressed on this Forum. He got it right with a certain player called Michu. Or perhaps you were ignoring/forgetting that." Massive fan of Laudrup and the way he was fired was despicable but I have two words for you Lib: Schechter, Vasquez.
Vetch, roof is questioning the boards ability to sign quality players. Im stating that Gylfi would have been a quality signing had Rodgers not derailed the deal as it wss almost done. Not taking a swipe at BR, just pointing out to roof that when the opportunity presents itself to the club the board do buy good players.
Im not questioning the boards ability to sign players , Im questioning the board move to bring in a meek manager so the board can do what they want without reprecussions of a managers ego.
Here we go again , we've got Monk as the manger lets give him a chance at least , look at how many so called PL mangers have lost their jobs and will continue to do so thats the nature of the game , if he's a failure he'll become just another statistic to add to the list of good , bad and indifferent we've had over the years .
Nothing to do with Monk , its the amatuer board that ruined the 2nd half of last season that I question . But seeing you brought up Monks ability as a manager matt , imo , no matter how good a team the board can put on the pitch on paper , we will struggle because of Monk.... hope Im wrong and its just an opinion . We will have little direction till Monk gets the axe (probably before Christmas ) , we had very little direction last season when Monk took over.
For someone that keeps saying "hope Im wrong and its just an opinion " you seem to be bashing Monk an awful lot....it kind of makes me wonder if you really do hope you're wrong? I was hoping the Laudrup/Monk/Board arguments would be over by now...people say fans are fickle and move on quickly, but that doesn't seem to be the case here :s
Ive said quite a few times that the Laudrup/monk thing will linger for quite a while . Its gonna get brought up when one of the greatest ever players ive seen play for the Swans(Michu) is suddenly rumoured to be wanting out or being sold because he is unhappy and is desruptive , which is a bit worrying considering monk has been telling us all 2he is just having a few niggles with his ankle" The whole thing would indeed be over if the club came clean and told us what the fook has gone wrong for us to pay off £2/3m on sacking Laudrup , for us to sit two good players in Canas and Poz in the stands and our us to see our best goalscorer on his way to West Ham for absolute peanuts !! How the fook can you not talk or forget about certain things !! its all linked together im afraid to say . Monk is in the middle of it all and until he proves himself,which to some he hasn't , questions will continue ,especially as a previous honest guy with integrity like Michu is apparently so unhappy he is desperate to do anything to get away from here...apparently ! Like i said im just hoping its silly season gone into over drive . Best thing for Monk is that he gets off to a fyler straight away ,new season new start etc,etc . The club are busting a gut to help him thats for sure !
Im not bashing Monk , Id take the job too if offered . All Im saying is JENKINS put him in place so Huw could do anything he wants. I believe Monk is not ready for managing , Im not going to pretend I think different... And I do hope Im wrong , very , very wrong .
Sorry RJ, but I have to disagree with your views on HJ and the board. HJ/the board appointed, Martinez, Souza, Rodgers, Laudrup. Each one of these moved us forward, although I'd argue against the later after his first season. Monks appointment was made imo, to provide the much needed stability we crave and is necessary for our continued progression. As we are all too aware, almost every manager we've had since the Hull game has used us a stepping stone. Monks appointment was made imo, to close our management nursery. We've nurtured far too much talent and grown far too much ambition to watch it be ripped up to flower elsewhere. The constant upheaval of managers is costing us, imo its costing too much. Every time a manager leaves it rips the heart out of the club, cherry picks our best, staff and players and leaving us in turmoil and pain. Every couple of years we've had to reinvent ourselves, start over, be reborn and eventually it will kill us. Only the courage and astuteness of our board and players like Leon, Monk, Tate have kept us together. They've tended the wounds, strapped us up, got us standing again. Look back, we've survived so much adversity. Miraculously though, not only have we survived but we've grown bigger, better, stronger, strong enough now to fight in the toughest league in the word. I think Monks appointment was inevitable. In times of great stress we look to the battle hardened to drive us through the pain. Losing Laudrup was very painful and the way it happened and the reasons were shocking with aftershocks to come, Michu and co. To take us through the inevitable difficulties we will have to endure the board have turned to their own, Monk and he is our man, right place, right time. Love him or hate him, he couldn't care less. He has tunnel focus and he will carry you anywhere, everywhere, if you let him. We need him right now, MONK IS OUR MAN.
Yes we have GM and I am sure that Roof will support him as will 99% of our fans. I Have to say as well I didnt want Monk as many other fans didnt. Just because you have fears about his abilities then it doesnt mean you want him to fail. Personally i would have gone for someone with a little more experience, i also worry that GM is just a yes man to HJ. But what ever my worries are, I will support him for as long as he is here as i have no doubt Roof will to.
You are Monk is very much in control at the club. If he needs help on something then he knows he can call on numerous managers for advice just like martinez admitted he did. Toshack did the same, Brendan did it also... Monk knows what he is doing and he knows that he is the one responsible...I think he will do alright for a rookie manager and will keep us in the premiership for a long time and will learn and get better as time goes on...
