Yup. If I had been trained by their bitter rivals, grown up with then, won trophys for them, made my career and my money with then and been adored by their fans and have close friends within the club - then I wouldn't stick the knife in their backs when they weren't expecting it. Plus not going to United wouldn't of ended his career. I think that a bit ott.
I didn't say it would have ended his career, I said it was his last chance to win the league title. No other club was going to give him that chance. For once, this was a decision based on ambition, something fans criticise players for sacrificing in favour of money. As I said, I didn't like it but understand his thinking too. Still think he is a prick too
Yeah same! Na i'm having a bit of a vent after a long week! Owen is just the mechanism. Although his actions obviously do stink to high heaven.
I'm sure he will play one or two games but I equally don't really care. I use the word 'really' because I will care for at least four games a season - two possibly against us and a further possibly two against Man Utd purely because I'd love to see him bag against them. Same goes for Torres...
Dissagree, he went to United knowing he could earn more money for being a passanger than going to a mid table team, earning less money but being a regular starter. When players get to that stage of their career you'd think they would rather go to a team where they are going to play regular football (Danny Murphy at Blackburn springs to mind) than to a team where they will sit on the bench for 90% of the season.
But Danny Murphy is not being offered the chance to win a league title, plus he is 35 and not 30 as Owen was at the time. this takes me back to the argument I had the other day about the Man City players, people say they joined for the money but I don't believe that. Quite simply, if the opportunity to win things wasn't on the table they wouldn't have joined, same can be said for the money too of course but without one or the other they don't join so there is a varying degree of ambition there too IMO.
Yes he may have been 30, but because of his injury record and the position he plays and his strengths (pace) he was never going to keep playing until he was 35+ in the same way that someone like Murphy who doesn't rely on pace would do. Therefore he is at the latter end of his career so I would have thought the most important thing was playing football. Let's be honest, the trophies he won with United, do you really think he looks back and thinks he "earnt" them?
I don't think he would believe he played a pivotal part in winning them but he will feel he earn't them because he scored some important goals along the way and, to a professional footballer, all the years of training, hard work and commitment earns them rewards. As I said above, I think there is a fans view and a players view, we posters obviously look at things from the former view most of the time
personally everton can do a lot better and if they want to waste what cash they have paying him fine. the got naysmith for nothing and jelavic so i can't see why they'd want this guy at all. I personally have laughed at every club who've wasted wages on him and don't credit any medals won to anything but being a hanger on... as for wanting to join us after real? bollox cos he could have forced it he loved the money at newcastle and really help them didn't he? The only thing that guy was into was getting 50 goals for england so capello saw right through him
100% agree with MITO (again? ) here. Owen should drop down to the championship in an attempt to play regular football (if he can stay fit) but his own pride won't allow him to do it.
Could not really give a **** what he does. Stopped caring long ago. Don't know who would be silly enough to sign him really. waste of money.
Again, I agree apart from two (maybe four as I'd love to see him bag winners against Man Utd) games a year if he signs for a Premier League
Who? Is that the fella with the hamstrings of a 5 year old boy? Toffees physios must be a little bored imo.
One of my favourite childhood players. Left us as soon as he could. Did **** all for years. Begged for a move back. Went to United. Now possibly going to Everton? He can do one, frankly.
I dont really care who he joins. I will remember him as a great player for us and now whoever he joins he will be useless or be injured most of the time anyway.
"I personally have laughed at every club who've wasted wages on him and don't credit any medals won to anything but being a hanger on... as for wanting to join us after real? bollox cos he could have forced it he loved the money at newcastle and really help them didn't he?" Not sure about that MITO. Newcastle put a ridiculous offer of £17m in and madrid told Rafa we'd have to match that. They were the selling club and made it clear that as they'd got owen so cheaply off us they were in no rush to get rid if we weren't prepared to match newcastle's bid. To be fair to Owen, he said he'd accept Liverpool's wage offer (which was lower than what he was on at madrid, what he was being offered at Newcastle and, indeed less than what he'd been on when he left Liverpool). Thankfully, on a point of principle, Rafa was unwilling to pay double on what he'd received for the player only 12 months before - and thank Christ for that. Best years were for us. be thankful he didn't go @ 2001/2 when he was still the best in the premier league.
Knowing the kind of person he is, I'd say yes, he does believe he earnt them. His justification: I scored important goals to win games, plus I was training for the starters, meaning they prepared against me and got better in the process. People who play for the love of the game would rather not win the trophy but have played most of the season.
