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Grand Prix thread MIAMI GRAND PRIX 2023

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by ched999uk, May 4, 2023.

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Who will finish first?

Poll closed May 6, 2023.
  1. Sergio Perez

    16.7%
  2. Max Verstappen

    41.7%
  3. Charles Leclerc

    8.3%
  4. Carlos Sainz

    8.3%
  5. Fernando Alonso

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Lance Stroll

    8.3%
  7. Lewis Hamilton

    8.3%
  8. George Russell

    8.3%
  9. Lando Norris

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Any Other

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Sportista

    Sportista Well-Known Member

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    Really impressive drive from Max, very good one from George also.
     
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  2. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    At least there's Danica Patrick to cheer things up. #swoon. :)
     
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  3. TopClass

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    The entire lot feels artificial.

    We have made regs where cars can run closer together, yet we press an overtake button to get past someone still. It’s an embarrassment.

    Defending is a lost art. People just waving others through because they know it’s pointless trying.

    After 2021 which was a cracking season, this has been totally underwhelming if not frankly dull as dishwater.


    I’m gonna watch Imola to see if there’s some decent car upgrades around but if we still see the same stuff I’m probably gonna duck out of the FP1,2,3 sessions and quali, maybe just catch a race where possible and do some other things with the weekend time.
     
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  4. Number 1 Jasper

    Number 1 Jasper Well-Known Member

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    The powers that be have not cared about the REAL F1 fans for a long time now .

    It’s all about the money .

    just look at the American Races and ones in the Middle East .

    23 or 24 races is past saturation point IMHO by at least 3 or 4 races .

    Sprint Races , oh please just bin them .

    All that razzmatazz

    I would love to hear Kimi going through all that crap .

    Oh , Drive To Survive can F**K right off IMHO .
     
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  5. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    IndyCar man... The racing and competition has been blowing F1 out of the water for years. It's just pure racing.
     
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  6. push

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    Wait till they get to Las Vegas.
     
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  7. Julius Caesar

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    I'm not sure how running the same strategy as 90% of the field is being hung out to dry. Ultimately he just wasn't quick enough at any stage. Didn't build a gap at the start on the medium and didn't close in on the fresher hards.

    I realise you probably don't like Verstappen, but do you really think he needs a conspiracy to beat Perez?

    I thought there was plenty of defending and good battling when you watched Hamilton and Leclerc trying to make their way up the order.

    It's just that the Red Bull are so much faster. It's not really possible to balance things so cars with a 1.5 second plus advantage struggle to pass without killing the racing completely for everyone else.

    F1's core problem is that it's had one genuinely competitive season from the last 11. Dominance happened periodically before 2013 of course, but since then it's become the norm.
     
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  8. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Tyre management is a passion killer too. The Ferrari had zero race pace, but clearly CLC was conserving tyres to the extent that I thought he must have something wrong with the car. Sainz wasn't terribly worried about even remotely trying to stop cars overtaking him. The only one that really put his nuts out there was Magnussen.

    Something is a bit broken this year, along with the ridiculous advantage RBR have. I'm a massive F1 fan, but even I'm really struggling here.
     
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  9. Julius Caesar

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    Ferrari are reminding me a lot of the 2013 Mercedes with the total lack of race pace. In general though I actually think the tyres are too durable. The two/three stop races we were getting a few years back were better entertainment than everyone doing 50 laps on the hards.

    I thought Miami was the best race of the season so far, but that's very much damning with faint praise. I do agree the season has been pretty dreadful, 2023 is battling it out with 2015 for last place of the seasons I've seen.
     
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  10. moreinjuredthanowen

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    I genuinely do not get the whinging about red bull from mercedes.

    for 8 years other teams had to endure them being a second faster in quali ofr 30 seconds down the track.

    go build a better car
     
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  11. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Yeehaa does it better, drivers even provide some after race entertainment.
     
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  12. Justjazz

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    That is the adrenalin still pumping and 'punching'. F1 has definitely gone in an unpopular direction with the original fans of the series. I fear it is only going to get worse.
    I think we need AI to create a series that brings back the heritage. Of course it would only be digital but produce brave characters, with integrity, engineering ideas. Even off track interaction, girlfriends and boardroom competition.

    Did I hear correctly about there being a possible 14 teams coming into the series in the future. Means a lot of work to ensure big enough pit lanes.
     
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  13. SgtBhaji

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    Lol.... What was that little spat over?
     
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  14. Big Ern

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    Just a bit of rubbing, I think Chastain may have pushed him into the wall a little bit, and it's not the first time they've clashed on track where Chastain has been the aggressor (you can probably say that about everyone and him tbh). It's ironic that Chastain threw the punch tbh, half the drivers in the field probably want to punch him in the face for incidents he's caused that have ****ed them up. Personally I quite like him, he's aggressive and maybe a bit mad (he used to do figure 8 power boat racing), but, crucially doesn't make excuses, or whine when he gets payback and accepts it for what it was, retaliation for his overly aggressive driving.
    Plus he did the wall-ride.
     
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