Mexit

[Burly Hurley]

Ha ha just found out a few weeks back that I just live round the corner from cumbrianmackem we are going to meet up sometime soon i hope.

So you must be up in the north west.

I thought you were down south like me mate.

 

[rooch 3]

So you must be up in the north west.

I thought you were down south like me mate.

Sorry mate couldn't live down there can't stand the hot dry temperatures

 

[Vincemac]

You'd be going against history though Vince.

Changing managers has kept us up each time we've done it the last 10 years or so.

I'm not saying it's right. It just is.

I don't know
But this changing managers every year doesn't seem right
Even though it has worked.
We don't get the chance of the manager building his team
Then given him time to get them to gel
Then get a few season together and make something happen
We all want instant success
OR IN OUR CASE INSTANT STAY UP.

 

[The Norton Cat]

Much of what has been said about Moyes was said about Sam and his lack of football tactics until he kept us up. I remember the great outcry after the 1-1 draw against NUFC last March when his style of protecting a one goal lead was condemned for us not getting the three points. Moreover, we never got out of the bottom three last year until the last three games.

Appointing a successful manager is nowt but a lottery as we all know but conveniently forgetting some of what he has put up with in injuries etc is a bit convenient to justify some of the arguments against him.

But injuries don't stop him drilling the fit players to close down the opposition, to pass accurately, or to consider their positions and movement in relation to their team mates. Neither did injuries cause him to consistently pick Januzaj over Khazri, to not sign M'Vila, to give up on bringing in a striker long before the transfer window closed. Like I said before, injuries and lack of investment have hamstrung him but he's made plenty of mistakes of his own.

 

[Vincemac]

But injuries don't stop him drilling the fit players to close down the opposition, to pass accurately, or to consider their positions and movement in relation to their team mates. Neither did injuries cause him to consistently pick Januzaj over Khazri, to not sign M'Vila, to give up on bringing in a striker long before the transfer window closed. Like I said before, injuries and lack of investment have hamstrung him but he's made plenty of mistakes of his own.

Yeh I see your point but I still feel we need to keep him

 

[Burly Hurley]

I don't know
But this changing managers every year doesn't seem right
Even though it has worked.
We don't get the chance of the manager building his team
Then given him time to get them to gel
Then get a few season together and make something happen
We all want instant success
OR IN OUR CASE INSTANT STAY UP.

I'm not disagreeing with you mate.

I totally agree with your sentiments. 100%.

But the goalposts keep changing slightly each year as do the dictat's imposed on the manager, with differing squads and cash resources changing each season.

We keep comparing each manager with the last. Season upon season. That's a little unfair to say the least. But it goes with the job.

I feel for Moyes. I really do. Short told the world that this was the guy he'd waited for for 5 years. Then he gave him just a relatively few quid to spend.

Shorts gonna lose a **** load of money if we go do down.

I for one won't lose any sleep over that.

He's had so many opportunities to stop making the same ****ing mistake time after time after time!

And here we are. Again.

 

[Vincemac]

Yeh your right
Here we are again

 

[Burly Hurley]

Yeh your right
Here we are again

My frustration wasn't aimed at you Vince.

Didn't meant it to look that way if it did.

 

[Vincemac]

My frustration wasn't aimed at you Vince.

Didn't meant it to look that way if it did.

Your ok mate

 

[red&white wanderer]

Its probably just your style of being downbeat or pessimistic without being negative, which ends up expecting 3 points the next game I find a little odd. But if you're expecting 3 points next game at least explain why.

No offense intended mate.

No offence at all - like I said an unexpected 3pts because we don't do the expected but we could also get blown out .
If the later I really think Dour Daves days are numbered. Can see us getting 3pts as we seem to play better when we have space -not when we need to battle and have to break teams down.

 

[Tel (they/them)]

It'll be interesting to see if Short gets rid of the manager it took him 5 years to get.

This was the man he really wanted remember. Let's see if he gets rid of him as quickly as he's done a few others the last few years.

I'll put my neck out here and say Moyes isn't leaving unless he walks, I just can't see you plucking the best part of £10m out of thin-air to sack the man, when your club are so much in the red, especially given the fact that you've got a very thin/weak squad, that few if any managers will get any more out of than Moyes is.

 

[RTB]

I'll put my neck out here and say Moyes isn't leaving unless he walks, I just can't see you plucking the best part of £10m out of thin-air to sack the man, when your club are so much in the red, especially given the fact that you've got a very thin/weak squad, that few if any managers will get any more out of than Moyes is.

If Short was going to sack Moyes - he would have done it already.
Moyes's record is only just better than big Dick's - our worst manager in recent history (based on win %)
I can't see Moyes walking unless it gets a lot lot worse and is hounded out.

 

[Tel (they/them)]

If Short was going to sack Moyes - he would have done it already.
Moyes's record is only just better than big Dick's - our worst manager in recent history (based on win %)
I can't see Moyes walking unless it gets a lot lot worse and is hounded out.

They get paid too much to walk innit, who was the last manager to walk in this league? Advocaat perhaps, but I'm struggling to think of others.

 

[DAPARKERSAFC]

I don't believe I'm being negative about Moyes mate and I know you didn't say that.

Faith won't help us. Doesn't usually. Ever. All this KTF just washes over me.

I just don't believe in him.

I don't believe the players do either. But what do I know.

I don't think we should get rid of him though we may well do.

I don't believe another manager would save us (though I'd love to see Eddie Howe have a go at our last 10 games).

What I do think is that if we do go down Moyes is definitely, 100%, NOT the man for us in the Championship.

Is that Eddie Howe who's Bournemouth side have lost 4 on the bounce and conceded 12 goals?

I've got them going down.

 

[Burly Hurley]

Is that Eddie Howe who's Bournemouth side have lost 4 on the bounce and conceded 12 goals?

I've got them going down.

The team's having a dip at the minute. They all do.

I just think he's a good young manager who had his team playing some good attacking football.

His defence have definitely gone awol at the moment though.

 

[DAPARKERSAFC]

The team's having a dip at the minute. They all do.

I just think he's a good young manager who had his team playing some good attacking football.

His defence have definitely gone awol at the moment though.

The jury is still out for me. After what happened at Burnley he may turn out to be an Alan Curbishley where it only works for him at one club

 

[Burly Hurley]

The jury is still out for me. After what happened at Burnley he may turn out to be an Alan Curbishley where it only works for him at one club

You might not be wrong about that Parker.

But he's had a good run and personally I'd like to see a young up and coming hungry manager at my club.

I've no idea who the Huddersfield manager is at the minute but well done that man!

He's making a very old fashioned club very attractive at the minute!

And he's made me a few quid the last few weeks which is why I like guy even more!

 

[Jack TheLad]

You might not be wrong about that Parker.

But he's had a good run and personally I'd like to see a young up and coming hungry manager at my club.

I've no idea who the Huddersfield manager is at the minute but well done that man!

He's making a very old fashioned club very attractive at the minute!

And he's made me a few quid the last few weeks which is why I like guy even more!

Aye he's doing a cracking job.

Could be way off here but I think he's worked with Klopp before, so probably has similar styles.

 

[Burly Hurley]

Aye he's doing a cracking job.

Could be way off here but I think he's worked with Klopp before, so probably has similar styles.

If there is a God, and he looks down on Mackems with spiritual favour, while having omnipotent hatred of anything black and white, then Brighton will score for fun tomorrow night while key magpie players get straight reds.

 

[DAPARKERSAFC]

You might not be wrong about that Parker.

But he's had a good run and personally I'd like to see a young up and coming hungry manager at my club.

I've no idea who the Huddersfield manager is at the minute but well done that man!

He's making a very old fashioned club very attractive at the minute!

And he's made me a few quid the last few weeks which is why I like guy even more!

Wagner. Klopps former number 2. Turned the Wolfsburg job down a couple a month back so I'm not sure we'd tempt him here.

Unless Huddersfield fail to win promotion and he's promised a massive budget compared to what they can offer