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Aye we has this discussion on another thread a few weeks back about young up and coming managers and Rowett was mentioned then as well.

The decision to sack Rowett was ridiculous, especially since his replacement was Zola whose been pretty useless everywhere he's managed - he's also proving to be pretty useless again.

There's a root and branch overhaul needed at the club, which starts at the bottom and needs to go all the way to the top. It looks as if Bain has already started by getting rid of staff. Hopefully he'll carry on and work his way up onto the coaches etc., both youth and first team and see who is part of the deadwood and get rid of them as well.
 
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It's a difficult one. I'm sick of sacking managers but Its tried and tested in keeping us in the division. We just need one to stick and take the revival into the next season (would have happened with Allardyce if England weren't so ****)

Do we just stick with Moyes whatever happens even if we lose our next 3 games?
 
Yeh I agree
Other teams are as bad
Couple of good results for us and the others keep playing bad and we will be fine
However other teams have to continue in their bad run.
Of course the others could pick up points aswell.
Like you say we have games against teams around us that we must win
Although we have struggled in the past against teams around us.
But we are used to the battle ar the end of the season
And we generally come good
Let's hope so .

Every sentence there is bloody grim reading.
 
It's a difficult one. I'm sick of sacking managers but Its tried and tested in keeping us in the division. We just need one to stick and take the revival into the next season (would have happened with Allardyce if England weren't so ****)

Do we just stick with Moyes whatever happens even if we lose our next 3 games?

I'll give him the next two home games pal and if we lose than I take a gamble on a new manager with 10 games left
 
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Anybody pal we may get a new manager bounce again lol

It'll be interesting to see if Short gets rid of the manager it took him 5 years to get.

This was the man he really wanted remember. Let's see if he gets rid of him as quickly as he's done a few others the last few years.
 
It'll be interesting to see if Short gets rid of the manager it took him 5 years to get.

This was the man he really wanted remember. Let's see if he gets rid of him as quickly as he's done a few others the last few years.

I agree pal. I was saying to rooch3 on a other thread I think moyes will be here next season to.
 
No proven experience at this level though.

I don't see it myself.
So what? How much Premier League experience has Antonio Conte had? How much top league experience did Arsene Wenger have in 1996? David Moyes has more than a decade of Premier League experience yet he's taking us down. Howard Wilkinson had won the league with Leeds and managed at that level for years with them and Sheff Wed yet he did take us down. Its not about experience, its about attitude, ideas, and above all- ability.
 
Any up and coming manager would probably look at the Sunderland job as a poison chalice, our turnover of managers is horrific, not sure we would be the pick of many good candidates.
 
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Doesn't upset me Vincemac its just that i have read that for as many seasons back I can remember.<ok>
Yeh that's what's been happening over the years
We can't get out of the rut
But we must keep trying
 
So what? How much Premier League experience has Antonio Conte had? How much top league experience did Arsene Wenger have in 1996? David Moyes has more than a decade of Premier League experience yet he's taking us down. Howard Wilkinson had won the league with Leeds and managed at that level for years with them and Sheff Wed yet he did take us down. Its not about experience, its about attitude, ideas, and above all- ability.

Totally agree Norton. All I was asking was who's out there with 10 games to go.

I don't see Short replacing Moyes with someone like Rowett who's never managed at this level and who can rescue our season