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Messi and his pathetic no show in the Copa America

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Whole-lot-of-Holt_HtH, Sep 2, 2011.

  1. lazylucas

    lazylucas New Member

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    really? argentina squad is the worst ive seen it for years, they have a great strike force midfield is rubbish and so is defence.

    anyway you didnt anser the rooney/pele questions
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    If Messi was the greatest player in the world, then he would lead his team to glory single-handedly like others (arguebly) have.
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    if best was so good then he would lead his team to glory single-handedly like others (arguebly) have.

    if rooney was so good then he would lead his team to glory single-handedly like others (arguebly) have.

    if ronaldo was so good then he would lead his team to glory single-handedly like others (arguebly) have.

    if gerrard was so good then he would lead his team to glory single-handedly like others (arguebly) have.

    if any english player in the past 50 years was so good then he would lead his team to glory single-handedly like others (arguebly) have.

    i can do this all day.

    simple facts are messi is rated as the greatest player of the modern era and may even surpass maradona by the time he retires, i really don't think he is that concerned about what some random guy on the internet thinks he has picked up 4 trophies in the past 3 months alone along with world player of the year, spanish player of the year, champs lge top scorer, champs lge best player etc etc
     
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  2. RAVENBLACK

    RAVENBLACK Well-Known Member

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    Messi is vastly over rated.
     
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  3. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    Arguably being the big word here. Maradonna single handedly winning 86? Rubbish, that Argentina squad was a good one
     
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  4. RAVENBLACK

    RAVENBLACK Well-Known Member

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    Johan Cruyff was THE greayest ever full stop.
     
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  5. Bolton4Europe

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    But I'm not saying Rooney is the greatest player, or Messi. I would give it to Ronaldo for his ability to do stuff on his own EVERY GAME and his amazing set-piece taking.

    You may disagree, but that is me. But if Messi was the greatest, then he would do it on his own, but he doesn't.

    Ronaldo hasn't led his country to success, but he has made the best attempt in recent years.
     
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  6. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    and did he win a world cup?
     
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  7. irishgreen

    irishgreen Well-Known Member

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    Balls.
     
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  8. Hash.

    Hash. pure daycent

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    dont be so small minded ... i put forward a certain Igor Biscan

    eeeeeeeeegor
     
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  9. Henryforever

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    Really you think the spainish league isnt a massive joke? You do realise that in the last football money league, west ham utd would of been the 5th biggest team in spain <laugh>
     
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  10. Henryforever

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    Ronaldo is worse than messi for his country. He likes to try and dribble past 6 germans/spainards and bang the ball in the top corner! Shame it never works and he just gives away possesion every time!
     
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  11. Chris.

    Chris. #bringbackchris

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    Agreed!

    <ok>
     
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  12. Bolton4Europe

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    And Messi skins 6 and bangs it top corner does he?

    No.

    If you trying to change my opinion, then you are a ****.

    If you trying to make a point, fair enough.
     
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  13. Hash.

    Hash. pure daycent

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    **** you robbie keane <grr>
     
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  14. lazylucas

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    Messi is vastly over rated.
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    yep

    only won:

    5 league titles
    1 spanish cup
    5 super cups
    3 european cups ( amazingly as many as man utd in their history)
    2 super cups
    1 fifa club world cup

    only 17 trophies for a player who is 24 years old, shameful

    he also has only just over 200 career goals and that even took him over 300 games to get.

    internationaly he has only won an olympic medal and under 20 world cup

    and his record this season for argentina is 2 goals and 7 assists in 8 games that only just above being directly involved in 1 goal a game

    5 times in the past 6 years rated best argentinian


    looks lime he has started this season off poor aswell only 6 goals and 4 assists in his 4 appearances, obivously this was against poor oposition = r madrid (twice) porto (europa lge winners). i doubt he will get anywhere near 70 goals which he needs to be considered good.

    maybe he should retire?
     
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  15. Henryforever

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    Rated the best player of the modern era? HA! Thats a good one! Scoring goals in spain for barca/real is like scoring goals in scotland for rangers/celtic.
     
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  16. Whole-lot-of-Holt_HtH

    Whole-lot-of-Holt_HtH New Member

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    All I know is that Rooney has a better international record than Messi now.

    and Gerrard is ****
     
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  17. Henryforever

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    LOl statistics and football = fail!

    Messi is one of the best players in the world. He is even an all time great, but to proclaim him the best ever is laughable.
     
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  18. Bolton4Europe

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    Messi didn't win those trophies, Barca's playmakers did.
     
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  19. lazylucas

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    Rated the best player of the modern era? HA! Thats a good one! Scoring goals in spain for barca/real is like scoring goals in scotland for rangers/celtic.
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    except he was top scorer in europe past 2 years, scoring goals against arsenal/r madrid and man utd.

    so he outscores all the other players in the champe lge who would you say is better? someone not playing in europe? clutching at straws a bit arent you :)
     
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  20. Henryforever

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    So we are now using goals in the champions league as the measure of greatness? Someone give ruud van nistlerooy and Inzaghi a call because they just became 2 of the greatest players ever!
     
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