Maynard for sale

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Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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Now I realise its an obvious shout since the breaking news that Nicky Maynard is for sale, but how about a swap deal with Chris Martin? Maynard is clearly looking for a move to the top flight, he would be a slight gamble but not massive - he is a top Championship striker, no question. He has had injury problems but I feel it would make sense. He is out of contract in the summer but plenty of clubs will be sniffing around so the price will still be high. £3m + Martin would get him I believe. Worst case scenario is we sign a top Championship striker to replace a good Championship striker!

Thoughts?
 
Wouldn't mind him, but what about Billy sharpe ? with the service we could supply, could see him filling his boots with us, he's a deadly finisher.
 
i doubt i'm alone in thinking that maynard is a much better player than sharp. sharp is a good poacher but his all round game would struggle in the top flight. maynard has that bit of extra class about his game <ok>
 
lets not forget that Vaughn will be back soon, that will be like having a new player as he's been so unlucky, if he can stay fit im sure he will be a handfull.
 
canarie-chippy said:
lets not forget that Vaughn will be back soon, that will be like having a new player as he's been so unlucky, if he can stay fit im sure he will be a handfull.
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To my mind that is the big question - will he stay fit?
With his injury history it does look like a big gamble on PL's part.

Good player no doubt but not much use if he only last a handful of games every 4 months
 
true, but there is no question that lambert will look to add to his strike force. wilbraham and sadly martin will probably be the next two forwards out of the door and jackson is not as good as maynard. we have to keep trying to improve our squad whenever the chance arises and maynard would fit the lambert mould. good age, good pedigree, good value, good player <ok>
 
That is the problem when signing someone injured / injury prone.
Whitbread has been excellent over the last couple of games, but it only takes a
slight overstretch, awkward landing etc and he may be out for several more weeks.

Also the nature of the injury history is key - the odd hamstring etc normally wears off after time and rehab but knee injuries <yikes> can bring a premature end to a players career, as they tend to recur.

At least our boys have Pilks to use as a role model, horrendous injury, back fitter and playing better than ever <ok>
 
Vaughan was a calculated gamble that, so far, hasn't quite come off. That said, I think it's really been down to bad luck than a 'sicknote' tag during his time here.
As for Maynard, yes please! He'd improve our attacking options, and as Superman said, the worst that's likely to happen is we end up with a better championship striker than we've got in C. Martin. If he's available at a price to suit us, buy!
The other question with Maynard though, could be what price Rhodes?
 
well exile, the prices being quoted differ enormously, but with maynard's contract running out in 6 months, it should keep the price more sensible. rhodes price tag is believed to be near the £4m mark - that is a heck of a lot for a player who hasn't played above league one! maynard has done it year in, year out at championship level although i think both players would be excellent signings, i would rather maynard myself. i won't be crying myself to sleep if we sign either of them!!
 
The more I see of Rhodes, the more I like him. But, as you say, he's more to prove than Maynard. Oh, to hell with it, let's buy both! :grin:
 
I think Rhodes will end up at Celtic.

If Palace want Martin I'd try get a deal going with Clyne if we can't get Naughton on a perm deal and would be tempted to offer Jackson + 2m for Maynard.
 
yes please! would fit the city mould

however, i'd fancy some of the teams below us to try for him too, QPR, Swans, maybe Wigan
 
I think your valuations are too high. I don't think that money will be thrown about on FLC/FL1 players anymore. As good as these players may be, they might not just fit the bill for us. Nicky Maynard and Billy Sharp have been doing it for some time and haven't attracted the high flyers. Henderson is young and may well be the sort that PL would go for. But we are in the driving seat now, and unfortunately, in the modern game, might is right. Clubs and agents unsettle players at their clubs and in the end go for peanuts compared to what clubs would pay for a guy who plays in the Belgian league. Look at Liverpool. Spent an absolute fortune on two strikers and they have scored 20 goals!
Holt and Morison have proved you can come from lower grades and succeed in the Prem but their combined worth doesn't add up to your valuations of one player. And we have to keep hoping for Vaughan to get fit and with H&M, Jacko and Vaughan, I believe we have a good strike force.
Strikers are important and obviously command the highest value but they are also the biggest risk.
 
not my valuations! these are the prices being quoted. whether they get full transfer fees and add ons is all up for debate but personally i think maynard is worth more than £3m, contract or no contract running out. its all down to what someone is willing to pay rather than how much we necessarily think they are worth. also, to state that morison and holt aren't worth as much is laughable! morison must have doubled in value (easily) since we paid £2.5m for him! lambert's philosophy of signing the best players at their respective clubs shouldn't go without notice - these players are the best players at their clubs for a reason and to say that our strike force is 'good enough' is totally missing the point. there is ALWAYS room for improvement and we shouldn't think otherwise. if we stagnate we will go backwards as others will pass us.
 
also, why wouldn't they fit the bill anymore? its a stance which has hardly done us any wrong in the past two and a half years! are you suggesting we should look for proven premier league players now based on half a good season in the premier league? if you are then i think thats foolish. we need to consolidate and make steady improvements each transfer window. maynard would be an improvement on what we have. not so sure on sharp or rhodes though i certainly think the latter would score goals in the top flight from what i've seen <ok>

oh, and who is henderson?
 
Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed said:
also, why wouldn't they fit the bill anymore? its a stance which has hardly done us any wrong in the past two and a half years! are you suggesting we should look for proven premier league players now based on half a good season in the premier league? if you are then i think thats foolish. we need to consolidate and make steady improvements each transfer window. maynard would be an improvement on what we have. not so sure on sharp or rhodes though i certainly think the latter would score goals in the top flight from what i've seen <ok>

oh, and who is henderson?
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Bugger, I meant Rhodes, I was thinking of the other over valued Jordan.
First things first, with reference to Holt and Morison, I'm talking about what we paid for them originally and what you would now expect the club to pay for the others quoted.
I wouldn't suggest for one moment there isn't room for improvement but it has to be within the 25 player rule and you are assuming we just dump Martin and Wilbrahim to make way, if thats possible. These guys are probably on contracts.
And how many times have you seen these other guys play? Once or twice? Or did you just read it in the papers or see it on the telly? And you think Billy Sharp isn't as good as Maynard even though he has a better scoring record. Or did you just read it in the papers or see it on the telly? This isn't fantasy football its reality and I'm quite sure the management have had these fellas watched. They have excellent scoring records too. But how do you know Chris Martin wants to go to Bristol because you see it as a good deal?
I'd love them all to play for City but if they aren't any better than what we've got and within our budget and the 25 player rule, we have to avoid paying ransoms for players who the fans would love to see here.
 
<laugh> i wondered if you meant jordan henderson!

redruth, i watch a lot of football and i've seen rhodes in the flesh maybe 5 times. however, you do not necessarily need to see a natural footballer in the flesh to tell that they have 'got it'. sometimes its obvious. he's a player who has the complete package but as always, its whether you think he can make the step up. personally i think he can. someone will take that gamble sooner rather than later, assuming he wants to move. with regards sharp and maynard, i'm talking about pure footballing skill and ability. sharp is behind maynard in that respect. not to say sharp isn't a good player but he is more a six-yard box player. his link up play is good but i don't think he would score many goals in the premier league. i don't always look at goal scoring exploits - there is far more to some strikers than just goals and you also have to take into respect the calibre of players in their teams creating chances and what kind of chances these are. maynard has never failed to impress me when i've seen him. as i said he's a good age too, he'd guarantee goals were we to get relegated and he has potential for re-sale value to the club. for me its a no-brainer if the fee and wages are right but competition for his signature will be intense.

i merely suggested as an idea chris martin in part exchange as i feel it would be a good move for both parties. martin isn't going to be good enough for the premier league sadly. i'm sure he could do a decent job for a middling championship club though. maynard is a much better striker than martin. the 25 players rule is irrelevant - lambert will sign players if they are better than what we have. there is always room for manoeuvre and players will have to move on. if they don't then thats up to them but i don't think we have that sort of player at our club. if players miss out, its a gamble lambert will take if it improves the squad.
 
My point is, Maynard and Sharp play for their teams, their teams play to a style. That may or may not be our style. Nicky Maynard is the focal point at Bristol City probably playing virtually every minute of every game. No doubt the same for Billy Sharp. They would be down the pecking order at City. Holt is already a legend at the club and Morison has estabished himself as a respected forward player in the Prem and internationally. Jacko has now scored and we are all excited about seeing a fit Vaughan.
PL has already returned to the team that got us promoted with the exception of Morison and Naughton. And to that end, I don't see him spending large on strikers. I imagine midfield and defence are a priority with him.
Having said that he'll probably surprise us and buy Darren Bent!
 
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