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Indeed mate.

The whole Epstein debacle should have ended when he was found guilty and jailed, but it’s not hard to see how his power and influence worked there. When it resurfaced, he obviously didn’t fancy a lengthy stretch, so was prepared to sing, and so they had him killed. Nothing more than gangsters with respectable titles fella.

You know who you sound like there, especially the last sentence<laugh>
 
I finished the Epstein doc. When Piskie says the judge was bent on Epstein's 2008 trial he was wrong. The deal was made by the attorney general behind closed doors. Epstein just turned up at the court house one day, signed it, then went to jail. The judge had **** all to do with it.

Ponce Andrew was seen at Epstein's private island by a maintenance engineer all over a topless Virginia Roberts. If the septics get him over there he's ****ed.

Clinton was seen on the island but not seen up to no good.

Virginia Roberts first met Maxwell when she was working at Trumps mal-der- something or other place as a wanna be masseuse.

A real ****s nest of nastiness
 
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I finished the Epstein doc. When Piskie says the judge was bent on Epstein's 2008 trial he was wrong. The deal was made by the attorney general behind closed doors. Epstein just turned up at the court house one day, signed it, then went to jail. The judge had **** all to do with it.

Ponce Andrew was seen at Epstein's private island by a maintenance engineer all over a topless Virginia Roberts. If the septics get him over there he's ****ed.

Clinton was seen on the island but not seen up to no good.

Virginia Roberts first met Maxwell when she was working at Trumps mal-der- something or other place as a wanna be masseuse.

A real ****s nest of nastiness

Surely it's only got to be a matter of time before Andrew has to face the music. Maybe it needs a public or media reaction to make him do so.
 
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Hi G4E. Good thanks. Keeping myself to the Spurs board mainly these days. Trust you are well. Was aware you were ok, as I noticed you popped across when Arsenal went above Spurs. Would expect nothing less <ok>

standard, if we stay above you I might pop over some more
 
And breakfast the way this is going :bandit:
it's the time of night i don't like.....i 've had enough beer, and things are like in slow motion....

So it is food time, and bed....enough is enough...i got to double figures, and that's rare these days...But i'm staring at food (not feeling hungy, but will scoff it) and call it a night.
 
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it's the time of night i don't like.....i 've had enough beer, and things are like in slow motion....

So it is food time, and bed....enough is enough...i got to double figures, and that's rare these days...But i'm staring at food (not feeling hungy, but will scoff it) and call it a night.
Just had some hash browns as a snack and am off to bed too. Be good fella <ok>
 
Surely it's only got to be a matter of time before Andrew has to face the music. Maybe it needs a public or media reaction to make him do so.
You could just as easily make the opposite case i.e.

well since at the moment the only "allegation" is he had consensual sex with someone who was above the legal age of consent it seems a bit of media puff so far .
The yank prosecutors look like they are just on a publicity drive as it is a way of getting promotion / better jobs in private practice / political appointments .
Now was it as sleazy as **** - obviously but if he knowingly had sex with an underage girl ( in USA doesn't the age vary by state ? ) surely those allegations would be public knowledge by now .
 
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You could just as easily make the opposite case i.e.

well since at the moment the only "allegation" is he had consensual sex with someone who was above the legal age of consent it seems a bit of media puff so far .
The yank prosecutors look like they are just on a publicity drive as it is a way of getting promotion / better jobs in private practice / political appointments .
Now was it as sleazy as **** - obviously but if he knowingly had sex with an underage girl ( in USA doesn't the age vary by state ? ) surely those allegations would be public knowledge by now .

I think this may have been covered in a previous thread. The age of consent is different in America to that of the UK, and as you question, I think it is probably also dependent on State.

I've not looked this up, so purely off the top of my head, let's say for example the girl is 17....now I'm sure there is something about it is only legal, if the partner is under the age of 25.

Having said all that, I'm not really sure what Andrew's problem is as a representative of this country, in flying out to America, accompanied obviously with a legal team, to answer some questions, on something he claims he has no knowledge.

After all he was a 'friend' of Epstein, who is now dead, surely just telling the FBI or some lawyers, the little he does know and helping their ongoing investigations, is not a problem....unless of course, he has something to hide.
 
You could just as easily make the opposite case i.e.

well since at the moment the only "allegation" is he had consensual sex with someone who was above the legal age of consent it seems a bit of media puff so far .
The yank prosecutors look like they are just on a publicity drive as it is a way of getting promotion / better jobs in private practice / political appointments .
Now was it as sleazy as **** - obviously but if he knowingly had sex with an underage girl ( in USA doesn't the age vary by state ? ) surely those allegations would be public knowledge by now .

She was underage in the State he had sex with her, so that’d be their starting point.

He was choosing to associate with a known and then convinced sex trafficker who ended up behind bars for luring a 14 year old. It’ll be what he knows that will be their prime interest, unless more girls come forward, as it stands they currently only have one, who has accused him personally.
 
Not looking good for Andy boy as photo emerges of Ghislaine Maxwell and Kevin Spacey on thrones at Buckingham Palace back in 2002 as Andy's guests ...

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Liz will be fuming ...
 
Not looking good for Andy boy as photo emerges of Ghislaine Maxwell and Kevin Spacey on thrones at Buckingham Palace back in 2002 as Andy's guests ...

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Liz will be fuming ...

and just to continue the theme, Donald Trump knows nothing either...

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This government lets you get away with killing someone if you're the wife of an ambassador and breaking quarantine during a pandemic if you're a friend or relative of the PM. Plus Johnson has already described historical sex crime investigations as a waste of money. So no chance as things stand IMO.

Don't see how the wife of an abassador has anything to do with historic sex crimes, regarding the incident you are referring to. Nor do I see what Dominic Cummings has to do with it, in fact it belittles the topic in discussion, if that's your logic of thought. In regards to 'Plus Johnson' I can't comment, because I'm not aware of said incident.

Now fook off back to the Liverpool board <ok>
 
She was underage in the State he had sex with her, so that’d be their starting point.

He was choosing to associate with a known and then convinced sex trafficker who ended up behind bars for luring a 14 year old. It’ll be what he knows that will be their prime interest, unless more girls come forward, as it stands they currently only have one, who has accused him personally.
thought the sex happened in the UK in which case i'd just tell them to do one as none of their business what legally happens in the UK.
Personally i wouldn't go to the USA as you are then in their jurisdiction . If they want to question him why haven't they come over here ?
 
thought the sex happened in the UK in which case i'd just tell them to do one as none of their business what legally happens in the UK.
Personally i wouldn't go to the USA as you are then in their jurisdiction . If they want to question him why haven't they come over here ?
No. Her allegation is that they had sex both in London and the States.