It's a grey area this one, and goes to show that, even with VAR, incorrect decisions will be made. Am I right in saying that if the appeal panel agreed, and thought Power may have deserved a yellow, he would not have getting his red rescinded, they would have left it to the referees interpretation? For a red to be rescinded it must be proven that no foul play took place at all?
A very pertinent point, irrespective of the card being withdrawn. It's the same as problem that we 'had' with Catts. It knowing when you have to risk the ire of the referee and when it's not worth it. If their player is in a dangerous position where a goal is likely to result, then it's probably worth it. But in the middle of the park. NO. Catts seems to have finally learned this lesson, (more or less). Since he is still with us and has the reputation of being a 'natural leader', perhaps he should be tasked with 'mentoring' this young man. He certainly has the experience. It might do them both good.
Agreed. I think the Walsall player getting there first and winning the ball cleanly is why it should have fell just short of a red..
Exactly. I've never been keen on VAR. Decisions like that is what makes the debates back in the pub. That's just football. I'm not sure about the panel thinking it was yellow, wouldn't have changed it. I imagine our resident bods @marcusblackcat and @Brian Storm would know that one for sure.
Basically its the angle of the boot. You can dive into a challenge without your boot being turned up and your studs pointing to the sky.
Panel can downgrade a card to yellow if they deem it was not serious enough to warrant a red card (hardly ever happens in the lower leagues from what I've seen - only occasional in the top division too) or they can completely overturn the referee's decision. Or the referee can watch it back and advise the panel that he was mistaken and it should've been yellow/no card
Honestly I'm genuinely shocked at the lack of knowledge of the laws of football here. The fact is that going in for a tackle with two feet off the ground is not allowed and deemed as dangerous and reckless play..
Can somebody put the laws of the game up where it says if both feet leave the ground it is a red card. I'll wait right here.
https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrIAX4RFv1beSUA7a13Bwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByMnE1MzMwBGNvbG8DaXIyBHBvcwMzBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1543341714/RO=10/RU=https://sport.bt.com/video/webb-explains-red-card-rule-for-two-footed-tackles-91364050940442/RK=2/RS=KVstFQXNCf24g1TyNJFZtc135M0-https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrIQhHhFv1bzPoAlq13Bwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByaW11dnNvBGNvbG8DaXIyBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1543341921/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2fsport%2ffootball%2farticle-2092434%2fTwo-footed-challenges-red-cards.html/RK=2/RS=4wrmOaxlTp35.51HBsJ3IA2IgBg-
You'll be waiting a long time because Law 12 (fouls and misconduct) doesn't say anything about that explicitly. It only talks about carelessness, recklessness, and excessive force. What that constitutes is down to the referee's interpretation. Different football associations will guide their referees differently on that and there may be specific guidelines in what are known as the 'competition rules' for each individual competition.
None of that is in the laws of the game. That all just relates to how referees have been guided to interpret the laws.
From FIFA via the daily mail: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2092434/Two-footed-challenges-red-cards.html Slide tackles that are made as two-footed lunges at an opponent are generally considered to endanger the safety of an opponent and are hence sanctioned as serious foul play, resulting in a sending-off. This is still the case even if the ball is won cleanly without touching an opponent. Referees are advised that if both feet are off the ground players have no control over their actions.
It does count but guidance on interpreting the laws isn't the actual laws. In a different country or in a different competition that tackle could well have been handled differently.
So this is the grey area. It wasn't a two footed lunge at an opponent. He won the ball cleanly, hence me saying that should have been a yellow. There's no law stating if two feet leave the ground it's an automatic red card.
