Match thread@: Sheffield Wednesday - Watford

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It is very good to be where we are, but come Tuesday we will be faced with a very different side. Wednesday played their defence almost on the halfway line leaving loads of space for our speed men to work in. Will be surprised if we are given that much room again.
 
Nice to see fans that are fairly gracious in defeat. I found it funny how much stick they were giving Forestieri in the first half too, not that I blame them considering he always ups his game against them.
 
Claridge is such a muppet!! "Some really good signings by Sannino" clueless Claridge doesn't know our system and would be better of keeping his gob shut.
 
aberdeenhornet said:
Claridge is such a muppet!! "Some really good signings by Sannino" clueless Claridge doesn't know our system and would be better of keeping his gob shut.
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Probably explains why he was so rubbish as a manager...

I suspect they were disappointed we won as it meant they couldn't trot out the "club in a mess" line.
 
aberdeenhornet said:
He was offside by about 3" that's acceptable mistake territory for officials. If it had been against us we'd be peeved, as it was for us we're amazed!!!
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I guess that entirely depends upon one's definition of 'level with the second last defender'. When the ball was passed to him, his body was quite clearly 'in three parts' - part in front, part level and part behind - by at least 18" in fact. So rather than being a case of 'official's error', the problem lies in the wording of the rule.
 
I think the rule states that any part of the 'body you can score with' in an offside position, so think he was just about offside but you can see why it wasn't given. They do say the benefit of doubt should go to the attacking side. One of those you're pleased you get for you, annoyed when goes against... But some of the comments being 'yards' offside were just silly...

Ighalo wasn't when that ball was played through as he didn't touch it in that 'phase of play', and he wasn't for the cross either!
 
[OTE=SalisburyKev;7199059]I think the rule states that any part of the 'body you can score with' in an offside position, so think he was just about offside but you can see why it wasn't given. They do say the benefit of doubt should go to the attacking side. One of those you're pleased you get for you, annoyed when goes against... But some of the comments being 'yards' offside were just silly...

Ighalo wasn't when that ball was played through as he didn't touch it in that 'phase of play', and he wasn't for the cross either![/QUOTE]

That is precisely what the law states (no rules in football, only laws) but for my money the defenders chest is level with Vydra's leading leg so that is clearly on-side. In any case the benefit of the doubt in off-side must go to the attacking team, unlike every other technical offence (ball in or out of play etc.).

Ighalo was clearly 2yards offside an made it tell. The law, as interpreted, is a complete arse. How was he not in active play or in an advantageous position? Five years ago the goal would not have stood and, frankly, absolutely right too imho.

The laws are written by and the game is officiated by those who, generally speaking, haven't played competitive football since they were 14 (Atwell and Atkinson have told me personally that they stopped playing at that age) and that cannot be right. (That said, FFS keep Platini away from the law makin process... puhleez) and given what's at stake in the modern game that is just ridiculous.

No I do not in any way endorse the idea that ex pro's should referee, but I do think they need to have played the game at a reasonable level. Far too many custodians of the the game have played barely any. That has to be wrong?
 
Just been reading a few comments about Sebastian Bassong. Everyone seems to be agreed that he played very well. One comment that about sums it up:

"Bassong! Looks a great signing. If he put a foot wrong he had the physical
presence to put it right again. One thunderous tackle towards the end
echoed round the ground, sounded like the ball had been struck by a
sledgehammer."

Seems we have been lucky to get him. <ok>
 
I think I must be the only person that prefers the offside rule as it is now. Going back to the previous interpretations would be like letting goalkeepers pick up backpasses again.
 
hockdude said:
I think I must be the only person that prefers the offside rule as it is now. Going back to the previous interpretations would be like letting goalkeepers pick up backpasses again.
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Why? Surely the 'level with' the second defender causes problems, as Saturday showed? There has to be something to counter the 'line of sight' problem that linesmen face - I've no idea what though. Possibly do away with the 'when the ball was kicked' element, but that would be unfair to speed merchants such as Vydra & Anya...
 
I was more referring to the 'interfering' side regarding Ighalo and secondary phases of play. The 'level with' is more tricky and and in that instance would probably prefer use of the 'trunk' like a sprinter in a photo finish rather than something that can score a goal.
 
Even SWFC youtube channel won't show this in slow motion.

I can see where there idiot of a commentator is coming from but as the ball is played forward the Sheffield defenders are going in one direction, to create the offside trap, and Matej Vydra is off in the other at full pelt, but just about onside. The stupid thing is Idion Ighalo is sort of part of the "phase of play" and was offside. I suppose as he too was heading towards the half way line rather than the goal line he is deemed to been separate from the action. The linesman got the decision correct, many would have taken the easy option and stuck a flag up.

http://youtu.be/MYbo7pVp2ec?list=UUXRpYvFmY12TMKet-E0w_Cw

Interesting to see the defender in the centre put his arm up for offside for Matej's goal, only to lower it when he realises he is the player keeping Matej onside.
 
I think you're right, Zen. The laws were changed to make it simpler for the assistants. The problem is that they make a mockery of why the off-side law was written into the game in the first place.
 
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