Err - League 1 & Championship - While not always fast attacking, it was much better passing - okay, easier opposition I know, all the same. Even a few games in our 1st season in the PL - that is not a comparison with Lambert btw If this is what we have to look forward to every week, then perhaps I need to find something else to do on a Saturday (or whenever we play). I mentioned a couple of weeks about watching Man City play instead and perhaps I should, because they are entertaining, Norwich are not.
haha I really don't care if you think I am a "happy clapper". Well football is not played over a calender year so it doesn't matter. For quite a while Arsenal had the best 2013 but it didn't mean they had won anything, just ended last season well. Well, sadly for us many other teams have replaced poorer players with perceived better ones too. All other clubs don't stand still while we improve. Yes we spent a lot of money for us, but teams around us have also spent huge amounts.
Well, Manure up next, expect Hughton to set his team up 'not to lose' (that's a ****ing laugh), eleven behind the ball and end up getting stuffed. I am so totally pissed off with our Manager and his staff, this is reminding me so much of Worthington's end of reign.
OK, let me ask you something, and these are genuine questions. Where do you see improvement? What signs do you have that we are somehow going to turn this corner and start a) playing better b) picking up more points?
As you say yourself it was against much poorer opposition! Unless you would rather we were relegated and playing exciting football but at a lower level? Not sure we ever played that nice a passing game under PL, but yes it was exciting. Football is more about results then entertainment although people seem to think they have a right to be entertained. And in fairness maybe they do if they are paying the money, but they woud still complain if they lost every game 4-3.
It really doesn't matter what I say, because as with much of football it is just opinion. Currently we are picking up enough points to stay up this season, and realistically that is our number one aim. My main problem is that I think it would be reckless to sack CH now, during a season in which he is keeping us up. He should (unless things really take a turn for the worst) be given until the end of the season. If the club then feels we need a different direction that is a much better time to act, minimising disruption to the team and time to bring in the right replacement.
aha, these are the big questions. I am of the mind that a 4-3 loss is better than what we have seen in most weeks this year, although there is no certainty that a 4-3 would have been much prettier to watch. However, I would love to see us attack more and throw caution to the wind a little more often, as opposed to be being more defensive minded and leaking goals for fun.
haha I think most people say they would rather watch a 4-3 loss but it is not true really, not every week. Today could easily of finished 3-2 or any score really, mostly due to poor defending though. As I have said many times previously, if I were setting up this Norwich team I would not play as CH does, but I can see the merits to what he is attempting. Even if it is not coming off all the time.
It seems to me that you accept there are no visible signs of improvement or progress. Your one argument for keeping CH is simply that we are not in the relegation places at the moment. I agree sacking a manager mid-season is risky. But keeping him because we are currently fourteenth and three points above the relegation zone is also risky.
We have been dropping points against our relegation rivals all season, until today Fulham had lost 10 out of their last 11. We will in all probability lose to Manure on Saturday and I really don't fancy our chances against another of our bogey teams Palarse next week. We need fresh impetus IMO and I'm fed up with being one of only a few on hear who can 'can see the wood for the trees'. I hope and pray that McNally doesn't lose his credibility as well by leaving it too late before he shows Hughton the door. And to those of you who keep harking back to what happened at Wolves, yes it could go tits up of course it could, but by keeping Hughton we're heading for the Championship anyway. Continue to bury your heads in the sand if you will, or worse still keep getting splinters up your arses by sitting on the fence. Hughton Out !
I know what you are getting at, and I do not envy CH in the slightest (or any manager of 'just another PL side'), I just wish it was prettier to watch, even if just for home games.
There are issues, of course there are, but all the other teams fans will be saying we've lost points against our rivals, it is what happens. i don't see the crisis, just that it will be a close call, it is not a foregone conclusion
No I don't accept that. As a team we are much more disciplined in our shape, which was an improvement we had to make since the PL days. Yes it is not perfect by any means but at least he is targeting the right areas. He has tried to get us to retain possession more, (interestingly though this almost seemed to be sacrificed in the last few games we have got results in) which again is an area that if improved would increase our chances of a long run in the top flight. Again it is not perfect, but is possibly one of the hardest things to change in a team and will take time with the right personnel. Arguably the players he has attracted to the club are an improvement on those they have replaced and are generally quite young and looking to improve. If you think we should sack any manager we have because we are only 14th then we will be sacking a lot in the future. If, as he is currently doing, he keeps us up then we will have more money in the summer and if a change is for the best that is the time to do it.
I agree it would be much better to watch entertaining football and hopefully if we stay another year in the prem we will have the finances to improve further. More talented players with more entertaining football. I guess the other way of looking at it is, is just winning a game entertaining?
Come on you know he is ****e; the fact we are 14th is just luck - actually this post is spot on IMO, as i said above if we scrape through this season, I think he'll be replaced over the summer. he has to have a really good second half to the season to still be manager next season
Absolute rubbish, before today we'd beaten four teams that were below us in the table and the lowest placed team we'd lost to was villa who have been in and around 10th until the past week or so. Stop it with your negative propaganda, it really is getting tiresome
Poor result, below par performance, but not unusual for some Boxing Day games, for example Everton 0 - 1 Sunderland, A. Villa 0 - 1 C. Palace, Cardiff 0 - 3 Saints. Just as likely we´ll go and nick something on Saturday, it certainly won´t spoil my Christmas. Hughton IN.
FFS!! This is the problem with so many of our fans at the moment, we were spoiled with two seasons of attacking, exciting, often frantic football with a shed load of goals almost every week - but it was at a much, much inferior standard in League One and the Championships as you say yourself. I would still disagree with your assumption that the passing was much better though, much more direct and attacking perhaps, but I wouldn't say it was better. And anyway, those two seasons are completely incomparable with our plight at the moment when we are coming up against squads full of international quality - sometimes even genuine world class - players week after week. We used to bully teams in those two seasons you speak of, we just can't do that anymore - is that really so difficult to take on board? Thai mate, perhaps you should go and support someone else if all you can do is moan and bloody grown every time we lose a bloody match. It can't be fun for you, go and chase some glory and join the plastics if you can't stand the prospect of following a Chris Hootun led team any more. Man City would a good choice I'd have thought, lovely flowing, attacking football every week. In fact I don't know why anybody would bother supporting anyone else to be honest, being a fan is all about guaranteed entertainment every week after all, isn't it? (I trust you weren't being serious by the way, I'm sure you've been through far worse crises in all your years as a city fan without seriously suggesting changing allegiances, at least I hope you were joking anyway)
