Massimo Luongo on Loan.

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Legwinski is exactly the kind of player we needed IMO and he had a really good season for us, very good player.

Bullard on loan, he was a class act, actually probably the best midfield performer I have seen at the club he was just a class above anyone in that division when he was on loan!!

I agree with Supers and tractorbhoy, I really rated Garvan, such a waste of potential!! I have never seen a 17yo be able to control a game like he did. He still can, unfortunately whether it was his bad attitude or poor coaching he has never lived up to it!! He always got criticised for being lazy but for me I don't think he was, he was slow and not particularly great in the tackle but just because he didn't run around like a headless chicken people thought he wasn't trying combining that with his lack of pace. I thought actually he was fairly intelligent defensively, abit like Carrick, not the most tenacious midfielder but his positional play and awareness made up for that. Positional awareness IMO is one of the most important things in a player and he had it, along with players like McAuley, Chopra & Bullard and dare I say Holt has superb positional awareness, but many supporters can rarely see this and often take things as who runs around alot or is strong etc which is why IMO Delaney and Norris were awful players because their positional sense was awful!!

& I agree supers I think Garvan was treated poorly particularly by Keane who seemed to not give him a chance. He had a man of the match performance and if he made 1 mistake in the next match he got taken off at half time!! I do think it's a shame we didn't have a manager come in after Jim who could get the best out of Garvan and Walters, we lost 2 very good players there but because they didn't play well under Keane(noone did) people thought they were rubbish and weren't too dissapointed to see them leave!! I really thought he was destined for big things, there aren't many players in this day and age who are play makers in his mould.

I have to say I never rated Trotter, I thought he was the complete opposite to Garvan, lumbering around the pitch with no talent, I thought he was only in the team because of his physical attributes, everytime I saw him I thought he was terrible. Tbf to the lad he's done well and I don't really begrudge the club for not doing more to keep him, it was just one of those things!!!

I though Gavin Williams on his day was a superb midfielder when he was up to full match fitness he was one of the best midfielders in the division, unfortunately he was rarely match fit and when he wasn't match fit he was rubbish!!
 
PTC,
Trotter was played as a holding midfielder by Keane in his unforgetable 4cd, 4dcm, 2 formation. He has done well since leaving us because Millwall actually use him in a role that suits him as a more attack minded player. I can see why some didnt rate him whilst here but that was more due to bad management than player ability.
on players we lost due to keane you also forgot David Wright, the last actual RB at the club before this summer when we signed Hewitt.
He also got rid of Stead (not in itself a disaster) and replaced him with David Healy.
(mygodthatmanwasa****ingidiotsmiley)
 
the smug tractorbhoy said:
PTC,
Trotter was played as a holding midfielder by Keane in his unforgetable 4cd, 4dcm, 2 formation. He has done well since leaving us because Millwall actually use him in a role that suits him as a more attack minded player. I can see why some didnt rate him whilst here but that was more due to bad management than player ability.
on players we lost due to keane you also forgot David Wright, the last actual RB at the club before this summer when we signed Hewitt.
He also got rid of Stead (not in itself a disaster) and replaced him with David Healy.
(mygodthatmanwasa****ingidiotsmiley)
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Yeah I understand he is now played more in the attacking role but still at the time I thought the boy was just talentless!! Indeed the loss of Wright and Stead was also stupid, although I didn't mention them as I do not believe they were as potentially good a player as Walters and Garvan, they were both good players, you'd struggle to find a more solid RB at this level (at the time) and Stead is decent enough. The most stupid thing was though at the time they were both in great form, Wright came 2nd I believe in player of the season and Stead had been on a decent scoring run, then we didn't even replace Wright and brought in D Healey for Stead. I forgot how stupidly keane treated his strikers, if they didn't score after playing 2 concecutive matches they were out of the team, I don't think he ever realised that due to the way he played not even the best strikers in the world would have scored more than 10 goals in his team!!!(lets not mention JR either)
 
Will agree to disagree about Trotter, but each to their own opinion mate. Luckily the grim old days are behind us and hopefully we can move forward. The signs are promising and I just hope we can start the season with a run of form
 
Having seen this guy last night for the first time. I am very excited about watching this guy. Klug must have been a big factor on getting this guy. He knew how good this kid was. Spurs know how good we will be as they gave him new contract.
He passed with the maturity and quality of certain spanish midfielders. He also showed grit and determination to win the ball back when he very rarely lost it.
I know many people say why should we be looking after future Premiership players we will never see the end result and believe me i am one. If we only have him for a year i honestly think we will be in a better place. Him and Hyam would be a very good partnership in midfield, however I think Drury is a very good player for us. Wow the options available to us in Midfield this year before looking at Martin, Jet, Carson,Bullard and Stephenson.

I think this year could be exciting to watch for us and Klug deserves some credit for getting us this gem.

coyb

ps great turn out by the blues last night. Thought we were going to out number the Cambridge until they let a few hundred screaming oriental students in probably for free!!
 
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