Mason Greenwood

I thank you for posting this.

Just to clarify,I in no way condone any actions which David Goodwillie did,or did not,carry out.I'm not privy to the bones of this case,what allegedly happened and whether or not it did happen.If it did and I was absolutely certain it did then I would agree that he shouldn't be employed at any level( never mind a career in the public eye).

The end part of your post is of some interest in that you've never been convicted of assault.I'm not going to give you any insight into any misdemeanours I may or may not have been involved in but I have a 36 year old daughter who was convicted of 2 police assaults..She walked out of a pub in Sauchiehall St Glasgow and was 'grabbed by 2 policeman',for something and nothing,flapped her arms a bit in objection and ended up in Glasgow Sheriff and was duly convicted of police assault...

Quietest,most polite lassie you'd come across but has assault on her criminal record!! As for hitting people,you don't need too,pointing a finger at someone in anger could be construed as assault.

 

A successful rape conviction where consent is the main area of argument is difficult enough to achieve in England. In Scotland it is virtually impossible because of the Scots Law doctrine of Corroboration which means two forms of evidence which meet the same conclusion are required for a successful conviction. You can see how this is difficult when the argument is the word of one person against another. Add in the possibility of a Not Proven verdict which is the outcome in about 25% of rape cases in Scotland and you can understand why some women are risking bring a civil case to try to protect themselves and others from their attackers.I wouldn’t want Goodwillie anywhere near my football club.

The same goes for Ched Evans. The daughter of my friend gave up her Preston season ticket when they signed him and there are other women supporters who have done the same.

 

And it was 2011 you could say he has been rehabilitated by keeping out of any trouble.
Those three assaults were for fighting i think.

 

The rape was 2011, he carried on denying it for long enough after the Court decisions, dragging his victim into the public eye.

I did read that one of the assaults was where he was defending a friend, but simply keeping his head down and isn't enough in my view.

High profile people, that live a privileged life largely based on being a role model, should earn that element of their pay, especially if they have been found guilty of rape, even in a civil court. That statement from Clyde suggests that doing that was part of them taking him on, which is why I asked what he had done to actually comply with that.

 

She waived anonymity.

none of us know what happened
He continues to deny it. So would I if I didn’t do it

 

She had no choice but to waive anonymity due to his actions. I'm sure she'd have preferred not to have added to the pain of being raped, which was proven in the court, and at subsequent appeals.

In the unlikely event he was innocent, he could still 'serve the community' by offering advice to youngsters on appropriate behaviour that would help them prevent find themselves being proven rapists.

 

I think there are some crimes where even if you are fully rehabilitated you cannot just go back to life as normal. If you find that unfair and diminishing your ability to earn an income perhaps consider that before committing said crime.

 

In the unlikely event?

and we don’t know if he has done any community stuff
And we don’t know why Clyde took him on and none of this came to light then.

 

It did come to light when Clyde took him on. Several people resigned as a consequence.

We don't know if he's done any community stuff, although I did look and could find nothing, which is why I asked the question.

 

Yes all of those and the rest of professional sport. Plus anyone working in the entertainment industry or politics. I'd also include law enforcement and the legal profession.

 

What a contrast of players within the same club. Accepting that Mason is not guilty of anything yet, the fact he's got himself in this predicament clearly is not good. Then you have Marcus. Pole opposites.

 

Mason Greenwood has been released on bail.

 

Should be released on braille
I’d blind the **** if it was my daughter

 

As I suspected he would be, police continuing their enquiries but not an easy one to get a conviction on, specially if he plays the role.play card, making out it was all part of their sex games. TWT

 

True but I don’t think they add additional charges after they had already arrested him if they didn’t think they had a case.

 

It's general practice, to ensure they have more time to interview, they claim to ha e further new evidence. Its a standard practice

 

Why? Why would anyone need to rape a girl when they're in such wonderful position as for instance a well paid footballer?

I'm no physiatrist, but I believe I know enough about people to know if they're dodgy ****s or not.

Reason being, well let's face it, it's so so easy to be a good person.

So easy to stay out of trouble.

 

Do you mean psychiatrist?.

Maybe they think they are above the law, or people will be to frightened to say anything because of who they are so they think they will always get away with it, maybe they think it's a power trip making others suffer.

 

I think the last guy in this video sums it up perfectly for the Raith Rovers situation and the same for others who are in the game under similar circumstances.

 

Mendy now has an additional charge too...