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Yeah nice tie, but for once I totally disagree with him he is wrong, MK Dons is wrong, they should not exist but where he has managed them in the past I think he feels that he could not go against them, You can change a club name and location but not the history, it was wrong how they moved them and tried think that they could run a club like they have, it should not have happened.
I wish that MK dons would just vanish they have no place in the league above other teams that tried for years to get a place and that ass of a owner that sends em away from where they belong is just plain theft on a grand scale of a teams heart and home and its life and soul the fans.
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Good to see MA promoting the club with his tie. I am sure PS will be happy with the continued media attention of manager and raising the club profile.
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Taken from wikipedia.
Arsenal Football Club started out as Dial Square in 1886 by workers at the Royal Arsenal in Woolwich, south-east London, and was renamed Royal Arsenal shortly afterwards.[4] The club was renamed again to Woolwich Arsenal after becoming a limited company in 1893.[5] The club became the first southern member of the Football League in 1893, starting out in the Second Division, and won promotion to the First Division in 1904. The club's relative geographic isolation resulted in lower attendances than those of other clubs, which led to the club becoming mired in financial problems and effectively bankrupt by 1910, when they were taken over by businessmen Henry Norris and William Hall.[6] Norris sought to move the club elsewhere, and in 1913, soon after relegation back to the Second Division, Arsenal moved to the new Arsenal Stadium in Highbury, North London; they dropped "Woolwich" from their name the following year.[7] Arsenal only finished in fifth place in 1919, but were nevertheless elected to rejoin the First Division at the expense of local rivals Tottenham Hotspur, by reportedly dubious means.[8]
I don't pretend to understand all that went on over the Wimbledon move but they weren't the first and won't be the last.
Arsenal Football Club started out as Dial Square in 1886 by workers at the Royal Arsenal in Woolwich, south-east London, and was renamed Royal Arsenal shortly afterwards.[4] The club was renamed again to Woolwich Arsenal after becoming a limited company in 1893.[5] The club became the first southern member of the Football League in 1893, starting out in the Second Division, and won promotion to the First Division in 1904. The club's relative geographic isolation resulted in lower attendances than those of other clubs, which led to the club becoming mired in financial problems and effectively bankrupt by 1910, when they were taken over by businessmen Henry Norris and William Hall.[6] Norris sought to move the club elsewhere, and in 1913, soon after relegation back to the Second Division, Arsenal moved to the new Arsenal Stadium in Highbury, North London; they dropped "Woolwich" from their name the following year.[7] Arsenal only finished in fifth place in 1919, but were nevertheless elected to rejoin the First Division at the expense of local rivals Tottenham Hotspur, by reportedly dubious means.[8]
I don't pretend to understand all that went on over the Wimbledon move but they weren't the first and won't be the last.
Over the years loads of clubs have changed names, and also moved location within towns / cities - perhaps Arsenal are the club that, before MKD, had moved the furthest - by Google maps probably about 12 miles although I haven't got a clue where their first ground was.
However moving a club 60 miles completely disenfranchises the club's original support, and nothing remains of the original club. How would Gills fans feel if PS decided that Eastbourne (for example), or Braintree, offered better opportunities for his club and upped sticks to there? How many would continue to travel to home games?
What has actually happened is what should have happened in reverse - MKD should have started in whatever tier AFC Wimbledon did. However that's all history, and I agree that if MK dropped the 'Dons' part of their name then history might eventually be kinder to them as generations pass, whereas keeping it is a constant reminder of the footballing injustice of the situation.
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MA is getting so much publicity, I'm just waiting for him to do a cameo appearance with Monty and the snowman in the John Lewis advert.
In a funny way moving the club to Milton Keynes did actually save the football club at Wimbledon. Lets be fair the old Wimbledon club was going nowhere, they were broke, they had no ground and frankly the fans simply weren't turning up. But the fear of losing their team galzanised the lackluster support to create the new club and keep a team in South London.
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