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On Earth, farts are typically no big deal — smelly, harmless, and they quickly dissipate. But if you're an astronaut, every fart is a ticking time bomb. The gases in farts are flammable, which can quickly become a problem in a tiny pressurized capsule in the middle of space where your fart gases have no where to go
 
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It's a 16 minute video, but watch just the first two minutes to get an idea of what is required of the helicopter on Mars, and some info on the Martian atmosphere...

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The noise and flight of it, reminds me more of a mosquito than a helicopter.
 
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Best thing I've seen about Mars is The Planets with Brian Cox. The episode comparing the life of Mars and Earth is nothing short of brilliant.

Mars had an atmosphere and an iron core which was spinning like the Earth creating magnetic poles, had its own aurora poles which shielded it from the extreme solar winds from the sun. It was lush.

Until the core stopped spinning, the magnetic poles disappeared, and with that those solar winds stripped it of its atmosphere and all its water, leaving it a scorching dustbowl.

What's so profound about all of that is the spinning outer iron core under us is all that's stopping us from going the same way.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p06qj2qg/the-planets-series-1-2-the-two-sisters-earth-mars

Watch from 36 mins if you cba to watch it all, though I would recommend it. It's an exceptional episode/series.
 
Best thing I've seen about Mars is The Planets with Brian Cox. The episode comparing the life of Mars and Earth is nothing short of brilliant.

Mars had an atmosphere and an iron core which was spinning like the Earth creating magnetic poles, had its own aurora poles which shielded it from the extreme solar winds from the sun. It was lush.

Until the core stopped spinning, the magnetic poles disappeared, and with that those solar winds stripped it of its atmosphere and all its water, leaving it a scorching dustbowl.

What's so profound about all of that is the spinning outer iron core under us is all that's stopping us from going the same way.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p06qj2qg/the-planets-series-1-2-the-two-sisters-earth-mars

Watch from 36 mins if you cba to watch it all, though I would recommend it. It's an exceptional episode/series.

Fascinating stuff. It makes me realise that we are but a mere speck in a universe far greater than the imagination.
 
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Fascinating stuff. It makes me realise that we are but a mere speck in a universe far greater than the imagination.

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The total randomness of history... of it all, is what freaks me out. Imagine that happened to us and not Mars? Or better still, if none of it happened to either planet and right now there were two planets side by side (kind of) both with an atmosphere, water and possibly life. And us with the ability to travel between each like we are now. Wow!
 
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The total randomness of history... of it all, is what freaks me out. Imagine that happened to us and not Mars? Or better still, if none of it happened to either planet and right now there were two planets side by side (kind of) both with an atmosphere, water and possibly life. And us with the ability to travel between each like we are now. Wow!

Seems like we want to use Mars as a stepping stone further into the universe. I see with the helicopter now on Mars, it's not there to explore anything, it's merely to fly and capture the data to send back to Earth. This data will then be used with the foresight for future manned crafts. Ie what we can and can't do in that atmosphere.
 
Seems like we want to use Mars as a stepping stone further into the universe. I see with the helicopter now on Mars, it's not there to explore anything, it's merely to fly and capture the data to send back to Earth. This data will then be use with the foresight for future manned crafts. Ie what we can and can't do in that atmosphere.

I watched the first few mins of that helicopter video. You realise just how much they have to think about when designing that sort of stuff. Cubic feet of air in atmosphere fgs! Looks good though.

How long will it take to do the research with the helicopter and the rover? 10 years? Then probably build a base which will take years, then use it as launchpad to somewhere like Titan I'd guess (I think that's the moon around Jupiter iirc with water and ice).

When we have the ability to leave our solar system then it'll be another level of incredible. None of it will be in our lifetime though.
 
I watched the first few mins of that helicopter video. You realise just how much they have to think about when designing that sort of stuff. Cubic feet of air in atmosphere fgs! Looks good though.

How long will it take to do the research with the helicopter and the rover? 10 years? Then probably build a base which will take years, then use it as launchpad to somewhere like Titan I'd guess (I think that's the moon around Jupiter iirc with water and ice).

When we have the ability to leave our solar system then it'll be another level of incredible. None of it will be in our lifetime though.

I think this is what Orion is all about, I assume that is going to be used as or for creating the space station. So the astronauts will go to there from Earth, and then on to the Moon or ultimately to Mars. I suppose by having docking stations, you have chance of preserving human life on these missions. Ie less risk. All safe house stepping stones in a way. Then onward into deeper space as time passes.
 
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I think this is what Orion is all about, I assume that is going to be used as or for creating the space station. So the astronauts will go to there from Earth, and then on to the Moon or ultimately to Mars. I suppose by having docking stations, you have chance of preserving human life on these missions. Ie less risk. All safe house stepping stones in a way. Then onward into deeper space as time passes.

I don't know enough about it but from the little I know, I'm guessing private companies will be involved. Spacex is one that's building rockets that'll be capable of travelling further than anything before them.
 
Is the point that someday we have to leave this rock so we best get good at this.?

I think that's a good reason for having a contingency plan, at the very least.

But also because we can and it's a worthwhile endeavour and an adventure.

I hear people saying we should spend money on Earth based problems before spending it on space exploration.

But why not have the ambition to do both ? :)
 
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I don't know enough about it but from the little I know, I'm guessing private companies will be involved. Spacex is one that's building rockets that'll be capable of travelling further than anything before them.
Watching them land a rocket again standing up is a mad thing to see.

That was a massive thing to because they can use them numerous times rather than leaving millions of dollars floating in space after one hit.

Big fan of musk tbh and of us colonising Mars/other planets in the far future.

I watched a vid on youtube ages ago now, harvard guy was giving a talk on the possibility of advanced civilisations in deep space ect and how they would have come to be, what journey a humanoid species starting off like us just about hitting the level of visiting planets within our own solar system would have to take to go far into the stars and beyond our own solar system.

From what I remember he came to the conclusion that to do so and to survive for millennia as a species we would eventually have to embrace technology and AI into our biological way of life by basically becoming androids, think cyberpunk, augmentation, genetic modifications, internal exo skeletons, maybe even having to go as far as completely removing our biological bodies all together to travel to some places in space. And from that you'd get different types of humanoids eventually.

Annoys me that I forgot what it was called or the guys name because what he was saying was fascinating and obviously being a harvard professor or whatever there was no wild ancient aliens theories just cold fact and logic.
 
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I think that's a good reason for having a contingency plan, at the very least.

But also because we can and it's a worthwhile endeavour and an adventure.

I hear people saying we should spend money on Earth based problems before spending it on space exploration.

But why not have the ambition to do both ? :)
Yeh don't get the whole "its waste of money" attitude tbh.

This planet will die one day, maybe sooner than we all think.

We just gonna die with it?

Obviously not us <laugh>but Yknow
 
Yeh don't get the whole "its waste of money" attitude tbh.

This planet will die one day, maybe sooner than we all think.

We just gonna die with it?

Obviously not us <laugh>but Yknow

Get prepped or die <laugh>

But yeah, it would be negligent not to explore imo.
 
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Get prepped or die <laugh>

But yeah, it would be negligent not to explore imo.
Funny I know but absolutely true.<laugh>

Wasn't it Einstein who predicted we'd not get that far anyway? That we'd kill ourselves off before any natural extinction. maybe I got that the wrong way round <laugh>
 
Tell ya what tho I really hope I'm alive to see a man stand on Mars.

I missed the moon landing shizz and that fukin annoys me tbh I bet the feeling at that time was amazing.
 
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