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Might not wana come back
I told you the other day, there's a fck off big rock passing. Get on it!
I've posted on this before about a documentary I saw. Imagine if the Big Bang we hear about wasn't the only one. Imagine the universe expands over billions of years but eventually gravity plays its part and the universe contracts back to the point of nothingness. There is evidence to suggest this is already going on. But at the very point it reaches that point of nothing - where all matter condenses to its densest point, it causes the next Big Bang. And the whole thing starts again. We could be any number.
Chapters of life by robsang t lampa, a philosophy book i read many years ago, he mentions our solar system going through a series of "ages" before eventually resetting itself again.. On his scale he talks of the poles shifting and washing the earth clean (maybe not those exact words lol) what you speak of is that but on an even bigger scale, and it sits well with my soul tbh because that's how nature works as far as i know it and it seems logical to me that if there is life here, and life in other solar systems and galaxy's and possibly universe's then by default the great "void" it all sits in is "alive"
**** it could be that thhe great void is a living creature in an even bigger void and our universe along with (possibly) many billions of others might be nothing but parasites living on its skin
After the Roswell incident, technology advanced more in 60 years that followed than it had done in the 500 previous
I'll give that a like, but find it hard to believe. It was WWII that saw jets, rockets and missiles, microwave technology, and the dawn of The Nuclear Age. Roswell was two years after the end of WWII?
Roger Penrose postulates that when the universe effectively evaporates, the 'size' is irrelevant and the subsequent amount of dissipated energy will be an indescribably small and dense hot point ready to be another Big Bang. Whether this would result in another universe is a moot point though.
I'll give that a like, but find it hard to believe. It was WWII that saw jets, rockets and missiles, microwave technology, and the dawn of The Nuclear Age. Roswell was two years after the end of WWII?
That was rubbish tech in line with expected human advancement….the Wright brothers would have been proud of it. It got allsorts of crazy from the 50’s onwards.
That’s how I see it, appreciate the like tho.
The current calculations have the universe expanding at an increasing rate but as you say at some point it will contract .
They also reckon life usnt possible within 10 Billion years of the big bang due to the way it has to developRoger Penrose postulates that when the universe effectively evaporates, the 'size' is irrelevant and the subsequent amount of dissipated energy will be an indescribably small and dense hot point ready to be another Big Bang. Whether this would result in another universe is a moot point though.
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ROGER BOYES
There is (very possibly) something out there
We need transparency to determine if UFOs are the work of Russia or something further afield
Roger Boyes
Wednesday June 30 2021, 12.01am, The Times
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‘What the f*** is that?” The American pilot couldn’t believe his eyes. “Look at that — it’s rotating!” Not a plane, not a bird but a high-speed unidentified flying object. After seven decades of denying the existence of UFOs the Pentagon has just published a review of 144 sightings made between 2004 and March of this year. And it admits that at least 18 of them are pretty weird, staying stationary in high wind, moving against the wind, manoeuvring abruptly and quickly without any obvious means of propulsion. There were some near misses. Military aircraft reported intense bursts of radio frequency energy emitted from the passing craft.
There’s a good reason why it has taken the Pentagon so long to draw up a sober balance of UFO activity, now rebranded as UAP, unidentified aerial phenomena. In the Cold War, when sightings were at their peak, the real concern of the US government was not an imminent invasion of little green men but of Russian attack, a thermonuclear war, mass panic.
In 1953 the CIA brought together a panel of experts chaired by a mathematical physicist, Howard Robertson, not so much to investigate what was happening in the skies as to reduce the flow of UFO reports. There was a danger that under the cover of supposed UFO activity, Soviet spy planes could operate unchecked. It was critical in the stand-off with the Kremlin that the US government should be seen to be in full control of its airspace. Besides, some sightings were almost certainly glimpses of the American U-2 spy plane, still a secret project.
So the government mission was to pooh-pooh the ufologists as cranks and fantasists. The sightings were attributed to weather balloons, to swamp gases from decomposing vegetation, and many of the people who sounded the alarm were written off as being in the grip of Cold War end-of-times anxiety.
But some respectable scientists saw that UFOs should be taken seriously. On the way to lunch at the Los Alamos lab canteen in the summer of 1950, the Italian-American Nobel prize-winning nuclear physicist Enrico Fermi was thinking aloud with his colleagues about the rush of reported UFOs.
It had to be a given, he mused, that there was sentient life elsewhere in the universe. There were, after all, hundreds of billions of stars in the Milky Way and there was a very high probability that a few of them had Earth-like qualities. Many were far older than Earth and could conceivably have developed interstellar travel. And yet there had been no credible evidence of alien interest.
His double-brained colleagues nodded, focusing perhaps more on lunch. Fermi fell silent and then suddenly burst out: “But where is everybody?” Meaning, the aliens. This later became known as the Fermi paradox and served as one of the legitimising planks of UFO researchers as they fought against government attempts to close down the debate.
The hunt for UFO debris and multiple-sourced observation became more than a crazy crusade and a question rather about where knowledge ends. If there were so many UFOs buzzing the skies, how was it that none had crashed? What was their intent — to plant probes and beacons? Were they perhaps colonisers (and, if so, why hadn’t they been reading the newspapers about the likelihood of nuclear apocalypse)?
Eventually Hollywood took up, and mangled, some of these issues. Directors divided aliens into good (ET: The Extra-Terrestrial, Close Encounters of the Third Kind), and bad (The Thing, Alien, Independence Day). The official view had shifted from the fear of aliens being in some way a threat to public order to the trivialisation of the extraterrestrial domain. Not a massive step forward.
Now a newly transparent Pentagon has declared the UFO to be, in effect, a matter of national security. The pilots who have been noticing these freakish events are not epistemological scholars. They don’t fret too much about unknowable unknowns. They, according to the Pentagon review, often back their claims with radar results and sightings on the ground; together, these findings worry the air force.
Unexplained events may be down to enemy disruption of technology. The spoofing, say, of US radar and onboard instruments into registering abnormally high speeds and sudden shifts in direction. Russian electronic warfare is advanced and western fighters, loaded with sensors, could have become vulnerable. But nobody thinks the Russians have got to that point yet and it can’t begin to explain the aerial encounters in the 1950s.
To turn UFOs into I(dentified)FOs, money has to be invested in a database that can make accurate comparisons between what happened in the skies in the 1950s and what is happening now. At the top of the to-do list is to check the defences of air bases, not just in the US but in Britain too. An unusually high amount of UFO activity has been registered there. That could be down to collection bias: that is, the large presence of alert US aircraft patrols looking out for suspicious behaviour.
It could be that the usual suspects, Russia and perhaps China, are much further ahead in their military intrusions than anyone in the West calculated and that we have been altogether too cocky about our technical superiority.
Or perhaps, just perhaps, on the wildest fringes of probability, some aliens are trying to get up close. What on earth would they want to talk to us about? Maybe they don’t like what we’re doing to our planet. Maybe they want to make us an offer.
My grandchild wanted to know today, if I was old enough to remember the asteroid killing the dinosaurs. 
My grandchild wanted to know today, if I was old enough to remember the asteroid killing the dinosaurs.
well... ?
My grandchild wanted to know today, if I was old enough to remember the asteroid killing the dinosaurs.
Maybe he/she seen a neanderthal man pic somewhere, and thought he looks like grampy.........the young uns a good un, questioning everything already.
Bet they are even thinking this Mars footage is a bit fking dated, I've already seen matt Damon growing vegetables up there few years back
well... ?
I tried to explain in very simple basic terms about dinosaur bones, showed him pictures of the Natural History Museum. Then showed him pictures of the Chicxulub crater. Then the topic got on to planets.
I tried to explain in very simple basic terms about dinosaur bones, showed him pictures of the Natural History Museum. Then showed him pictures of the Chicxulub crater. Then the topic got on to planets.
So that's a yes then
I tried to explain in very simple basic terms about dinosaur bones, showed him pictures of the Natural History Museum. Then showed him pictures of the Chicxulub crater. Then the topic got on to planets.
Depends how old he is but I'd imagine he'd love all that. Dinosaurs, meteors, planets. I remember when mine were younger I put the whole solar system up on their ceiling. Used to go fluorescent and **** at night.
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