http://beautifullyred.co.uk/ A nice piece on Nani last night. please log in to view this image please log in to view this image
please log in to view this image please log in to view this image please log in to view this image Thats not even all of what he did. Has a really good understanding with Kagawa though.
I can't take people in chat rooms opinion.. Christ we are the most supported club in the world.. The majority of them are either children or from Asia who don't know their arse from their elbow.. Maybe nani didn't give the ball away by passing badly but he did by running into players and falling over or just by being dispossessed.. No united fan could seriously look me in the eye and tell me they wouldn't think nani is **** if he playe for another team.. Some fans support him because he plays for us.. At times we are just as deluded as the mickeys for our opinions on our own players..
Sweats, talk sports a bag of **** as is mutv. I cringe when you hear people phone in on those shows. redcafe is a pretty sensible site, you cant even post there unless they decide you are not a bit special. I wouldnt want to face Nani if he played for another club, we would have to be on our toes bigtime. I get you dont like him as a player and thats fine. I see it differently but I am not blind to his bad side. He loses the ball and makes bad choices alot. People expect way to much of him and if his creativity doesnt pay off because others are poor he gets the blame. I think Nani is one of the few players keeping the United way alive. Exciting edge of your seat stuff. Not a fan of zombie passing. No movement and safe 2 yard passes back and forth. Rather see someone have a go, take a man on, cut inside, play a throughball or try a flick. Most teams against us just sit back and let us pass for no reason at the edge of their box. Nani and Kagawa buck this boring trend and try something harder. Doesnt always work of course. Doesnt always work for the best ever players but you keep trying. Nani is a winger, not a defender or a wing back. Its great that Valencia tracks back and fair play to him. Cover up what he lacks going forward which is the unpredictability to confuse the **** out of defenders. Nani isnt all bad defensively, see him tracking back alot and hes not so bad at winning the ball back. Anyway we wont agree sweats, I am a fan of Nani, not just because h plays for United but because I like how he plays. Its refreshing compared to some of our play which is so dull at times. Bet no player gets United fans out of their seast, at the game or at home more than Nani, for both good and bad reasons.
UIR... He clearly does have a good understanding with Kagawa I actually don't think he was at his worst at all yesterday.. It's only because of the penalty that people have re-lit that fire.. But he is sooo frustrating to watch.. Mainly because the season before last he was top class, and we know he has it in him. But I'm not convinced he wants to be at United anymore though... And come summer I think he'll be off somewhere else. And whatever's going on behind the scenes is impacting on his performances, I think.
You are reading to much into the press speculation. Nanis only actual quotes are along the lines of 'I love United, I dont want to leave' I think he is low on confidence which sums up the sort of player he is. We need him starting every game and then you watch. Say he starts our next 10 games he will get his confidence back and get better and better and better. This is a player who has an insane number of assists and goals for a winger ( Ronaldo and Messi aside ) over the last 3 years. Assits lead to goals and goals win games. Hes got a good pass completion rate and loses the ball less than you might think ( strangely enough Rooney, Evra and Rafael lose it far more than Nani ). Mistakes that lead to goals are rare aswell. Hes also usually a great penalty taker but that showed his lack of confidence last night. Hes a player who needs support, one who thrives having everyone behind him even when he might fluff it somewhat because 1 minute later he will score a wonder goal or make a pass that makes you think WTF. In football terms I love the guy but I also loved Ronaldo when he first came and did so while others were slating everything he did because he made so many errors. I remember Giggs getting slammed for his play in the past because he wasnt safe and tried to many special balls. Even Berbatov whos goals won us our last title ( his goals and Nanis assists ). Hes like the underdog whos better that most of our squad. I hope people dont consider me a fan boy, I slate him when hes bad as much as anyone. I lose my rag at times watching him. My girlfriend laughs at me for it
I think it's too easy to focus on nani's attributes just because he shows a bit skill.. If there were stats that showed how many times he gets dispossessed when holding onto thee ball for too long that then led to us giving away an opportunity it'd be more than the goals he set up.. The odd occasion what he does works but he ****s it up far more.. If he'd been in carricks position he wouldn't have tried to score he would have played for the pen.. An no doubt missed
http://www.whoscored.com/Blog/cae9_tpd5kqrsmm-dijjzg/Show There you go sweats. Nani doesnt even feature as one of the biggst loses of possession. I happen to know its works out at 2 times a game. Valencia is 1 time a game. Nani has almost double the amount of time with the ball though.
On the subject of Carrick possibly playing for the pen. Shortly after Nani was tackled sloppily in the area, defender didnt get the ball and I thought Nani would play act. He didnt, he kept the ball from 3 Gala players while on the ground and got back up with the ball and I cant remember if he shot or passed but I was pleased he didnt ask for a penalty. Should of had one in the second half though but lets not talk about penalties that should of been. There were 4 not given that should of been
Nani is the most frustrating player to watch as a United supporter as he is just so damn inconsistent. That being said, wouldn't surprise me if he has a great game against Liverpool at the weekend.
The thing about penalties is that no matter what managers say - they all want to win at (almost) any cost, if that means that their players take a dive, so be it.... The points are still on the board. Remember Welbeck trying to stay on his feet and missing the shot last season against Arsenal in the 2-1 win? I'm sure heprobably got a bollocking from Fergie after the game... Up until then I'd never seen him dive.. He's a professional diver now.
I really do disagree with the inconsistent tag he gets. It doesnt add up. We have players in our squad who are praised massively who make nanis consistency look like he never ever does anything wrong. Rooney for one. Hes so inconsistent it hurts. his 27 goals last season and 30 odd two seasons prior cover up the fact he floats through games doing very little. His passing is dreadful aswell and he doesnt go past anyone. Nani creates and scores almost as many goals as Rooney but doesnt get half the flack.
It's not even because of the press.. I've felt that his time was coming for a year or two now.. I remember we talked about it last summer, and I said then that I thought he'd be gone in a year or two.
When 10s of millions are up for grabs its always going to happen. Dont like it but doesnt annoy me like it does some. It happens. Unless every team stops the one who does is going to lose out big time and in professional sport being the team who has the moral high ground wins you **** all bar a chance to qualify from the first round of the Europa league. In fairness its improved defending 10 fold. Now defenders dont even need to touch a player and they can get the ball.
Rooney has a "goals galore" patch (even for England) every season though.. He'll hit at least 20-25 goals in the league again too... It's another case of "you can float in and out of games and be as wasteful as you want if you score us 27 goals a year"
Yep. I have no issue with this. It works for him so carry on I say. Back when we had Tevez he did so much running and graft but scored hardly any goals. That was pointless imo.
The difference between Rooney and Nani is: Rooney floats in and out of games, Nani floats in and out of the whole season.
Being rotated with the very poor young doesnt help and being shifted to right wing when Valencia is out only to do brilliant and get shoved back on the left doesnt help. Gerrard went through a similar thing at Liverpool. All over the place. Nani has even played as striker on occasion. Play him in one role, every game hes fit and he will provide the vast majority of our goals and chances each season. Everytime hes played game after game hes done so. Fergie likes to rotate but sometimes it does more harm than good.
I don't agree with you there. To me Nani is like our Suarez, Nasri or Bale - he can be very dangerous but is not all that consistent. If he played for another team he'd be one of their most dangerous players and whenever we played them we'd have to have a system in place for dealing with him. If anything, I think it's the other way around - if Nani played for Arsenal or Liverpool we wouldn't hear the end about how "world class" he is. If anything, Utd fans such as yourself are harsher on him because we actually have experience of world class players and so our expectations are that much higher.
