I understand perfectly what a human right is. I studied human rights law. I am talking about them being able to use the HRA to delay/ stop deportation.
I think it comes down to under funding/ staffing unfortunately. Reports are that MI5 have that many cases that they simply cannot devote the time.
Fair enough - I may have misunderstood the thrust of your argument. I agree that the HRA is abused. I'm not sure how to strike the balance between defending human rights and preventing abuse. Presumably there's no way of striking a perfect balance. I just get concerned when people talk about the existence act itself as if it's a problem, as opposed to the details of it/the way it's interpreted in law. Apologies if that's not what you meant.
It's fine. I probably didn't clarify enough. I don't advocate the complete dismissal of human rights, just the ability of these people to use the HRA to fight deportation following a decision by our Courts. Ultimately, a decision by our highest courts should be binding and the use of the HRA to challenge the legitimacy in this kind of instance would be wrong. The ECHR and HRA do allow the suspension of some rights in very limited circumstances mind.
Apparently the SAS are on the streets in plain clothes. I wouldn't want to be one of these jihadi's if they run into one of those psycho's. A different breed the SAS.
I'd agree with pretty much all of that. I actually don't think any of that contravenes the human rights act apart from permanent solitary confinement. The Human Rights Act was never meant to be something to hide behind - and isn't when used properly. I wouldn't like to see us abandon it. It is part of what makes this country (and others) better than them. Personally I don't see the need to ensure they are locked up in solitary confinement as long as they are locked up and kept apart from people they could radicalise who will be getting out. I also think a life sentence for them should be a proper life sentence, with an absolute minimum of thirty years to be served and even then no release without overwhelming evidence that they are no longer a risk. I agree the death penalty would be an easy way out for them too.
Well, maybe the government needs to increase the funding to anti-terror organisations. It doesn't seem sensible to not be following up on any tip offs because they don't have the resources. Give them the resources they need.
I'm not against people making money but the JustGiving fundraising website really does take the biscuit. They've come under fire for taking up to £100k in fees from money donated to the victims of the Manchester bombing. They claim none of this will end up in their coffers but I think we should be highly suspicious of them. Its about time the government did something about companies like this (like limit the percentage they can charge. And if it is already capped, then cap it even lower). They may be helping to raise money but they are also helping themselves to a decent share of it. Is this company the Wonga of fundraising? Thoughts?
i was thinking about all them just giving donations. ****ing they must love it whenever i giant atrocity or something bad happens with the amount of funds that go through them. Even if someone doesn't set one up there must be an incentive from the shareholders to put something there and try get it into the media
^^ He might talk the talk but this bloke walks the walk as well. Obviously, he is upset. Big respect.
I respect your opinion and I have no issues with muslims at all. I have a few friends who are muslims and I always say to them "do you know of other muslims with extreme views. They say yes. So I ask well why don't you report them to the police. They say no because he is one of their own. I say but how is that right. Wrong is wrong no matter what religion and you don't support or cover up for a brother who is preaching something that is not part of your religion" I hope this makes sense and it's not in any way a dig at muslims. It's an opinion based on facts of my current situation. For the record i believe my mates are good people I just think they are scared of being a grass.
Its the fear of ostracisation mate. If they grass on aforesaid person they will be shunned. No invites to family weddings, functions, the men losing face in their community - and believe me for someone of a Pakistani or Bengali background it is like a slap in the face - the humilation would be simply too much. To betray the Ummah to the Kafir government is worse than planning terror attacks. That is how many see it. The same in regard to apostates - many still pretend they are Muslim as the consequences will be severe - possibly fatal.
But things have to change. Muslims are tarnished by the very few yet are unwilling to publicly oust the very ones creating the stigmas against them.......... it's a shame but the religion has to take some responsibility in condemning the ones who do not conform. I say that in no means knowingly towards the religion itself but surely as a collective they don't want to be associated with the scum that keep being barbaric.
All this talk of 'religion', I consider Islam to be something akin to a nationality, an identity, a way of life. Similar to how many of us call ourselves English. Some of the biggest loons ever hang around these mosques and if anyone criticises them, you will face the full wrath of Rentamob (not all muslims, of course). Now that is not very holy, is it? Thoughts anyone? (I'm not having a dig by the way, just trying to understand it all).
