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Man Utd bid euros30milli0on for Cesc Fabregas

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  1. shwan

    shwan Well-Known Member

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    so one week left then ?
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    at this point i don't care if it is Fellaini or Cesc, each give us something we are lacking atm
     
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  2. astro

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    I think Man Utd have been quite boring in this window. This Fabregas story is quite disappointing. There's some mild entertainment in Utd being denied of course, but either way (get him or not) I just don't think he's a big deal, especially for over £30m.

    Fellaini would be a much better story. I think he would add more to Utd, plus there's the Moyes/Everton element.
     
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  3. One of the lads

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    REP!

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  4. astro

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    The rep didn't appear try again mate <ok>
     
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  5. Daveunited

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    True, if SAF was still in charge 3 or 4 signings would be done by now and Mourinho would have surely had his say and the "mind games" would have made the headlines. Been a dull pre season anyway, the Suarez saga seems to be the only major talking point barring the new managers.
     
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  6. Manobear

    Manobear I love cheeseburgers

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    Agree about us being boring this window, but we really only have to improve in the midfield. We have the best set of strikers in the world in my opinion, our defense really tightened up at the end of the season. We have promising young talent in the defense who have time to improve while Bidic and Rio can still play at the top level. Our wingers were poor lasted season, but in previous years they were miles above the rest so it would be a bit harsh to go out and replace them. That's assuming we're still going to be using out and out wingers. The only place we can really improve in our first XI is the midfielder who line up in tandem with Carrick. We have 3-4 other CMs who are squad players. Fabregas would add that extra bit of class to out first XI.

    Not sure how well Fellaini would fit in at United, but he wouldn't be a bad signing.
     
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  7. Constcrepe

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    You do realise the manager identifies the targets but the chief executive etc goes after them. Moyes is busy with the team in Far East and has no time to barter with teams thousands of miles away.

    During the summer transfer window 2006-07, Utd signed only one player, Michael Carrick. A bid was made on 10 June with Spurs saying he was not for sell. It took to 28 July for Spurs to admit a fee had been agreed bug another 3 days for the deal to be made official.

    Patience.
     
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  8. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    Boring?

    Has it ****. There's nothing boring about United identifying an issue and working on sorting it out.

    Fergie decided it was more fun not to sort it out. It was, 5 years ago.
     
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  9. astro

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    I think you need another first choice defender given how many injuries Vidic and Ferdinand are picking up these days. Questions have already been raised regarding Moyes' methods regarding injuries to RVP.
     
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  10. Constcrepe

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    Please uphold your integrity and respect on this board and confirm you were not referring to the reports of the twitter account of that muppet Raymond Verheijen?
     
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  11. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    He's a muppet based purely on the fact that he disagrees with certain training methods, given he's a professional and you are an over opinionated armchair football expert, sorry.. who's the muppet again? Surely it's you <laugh>
     
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  12. Constcrepe

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    <laugh> Being called a muppet from the guy who thinks Suarez is a decent human! Brilliant. The guy is a pompous tool who criticises every top team in England on Twitter (need I say anything more) in a desperate attempt to get some media attention. He's a nobody.
     
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  13. Swarbs

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    He's a muppet based on the fact that he has a proven history of blaming every injury and every half crocked player on coaches who don't use the methods he promotes.

    Robben was injury prone due to Chelsea's coaches
    RVP was injury prone due to Arsenal's coaches
    VDV was injury prone due to Spurs coaches
    Bellamy was injury prone due to City's coaches
    Barry and Lampard were injured by England's coaches

    Yet for some reason only these players were injured, and no others. And clubs who adopt his methods, like Liverpool for example, still have plenty of injury prone players (Torres, Johnson, Aurelio, Agger anyone?)

    Like I said in the other thread, it's a wonder such a supposed 'expert', who has the solution to the injury problems of so many players, has been unemployed for over a year, whereas 'dinosaurs' like Moyes wreck their players but are continually employed for over 15 years.
     
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  14. astro

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    Rene Meulensteen, Raymond Verheijen... there are enough reports slagging him off I forget exactly which one it was

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  15. shwan

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    waw .. all above argument shows how boring Cesc story news now

    @ astroturfnaut: so a newspaper publish something and it is a fact ? <doh> grow up
     
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  16. Constcrepe

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    The recent criticism in the press was from the balloon who publishes nonsense on Twitter. With regard to the article about Rene, there are no quotes only a reference to Rene Meulensteen turning down the chance to be Moyes' assistant manager at Old Trafford because he felt the Moyes's hands-on approach to training would have left him more marginalised than in the role he enjoyed under Sir Alex Ferguson. Nothing about bad training or outdated training methods. Just a reference to him being put out. :rolleyes:
     
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  17. HRH Custard VC

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    So why did Sir David have no problems with Everton then?
     
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  18. Batmoanu

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    Everton had terrible injury records every season. Look at Arteta for example, almost an ever present in a physically draining position for Arsenal but at Everton he was always injured.
     
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  19. Constcrepe

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    Was thinking the same about RVP. List of injuries at Arsenal.

    Robin van Persie joined Arsenal in 2004 for a fee of £2.75m. Feyenoord originally wanted £5m but, well, Wenger did his thing. Since then he has played a total of 278 games for Arsenal (211 starts and 67 substitute appearances), an average of 26 starts per season.

    2004-05: Debut season cut short by and ankle injury in February after also spending time out with two sprained ankles (not at the same time).

    2005-06: Suffered a knee injury, and two more ankle injuries. Arsenal fans are starting to realise why the Dutch fans refer to him as &#8216;glass ankles.&#8217;

    2006-07: Just to mix things up a bit Robin suffered a hip injury followed by a metatarsal fracture then another knee injury before suffering a thigh muscle strain.

    2007-08: Managed to make it January before injury set in and then suffered three thigh muscle strains in quick succession.

    2008-09: An ankle injury started the season off followed by a hamstring injury and a couple of groin strains to end the season.

    2009-10: A knee injury arrived in September followed by a sprained ankle. This was the season he tried to use horse placenta to cure what turned out to be torn ligaments and missed five months of the campaign only to return in April to feature in the last few games.

    2010-11: Another early ankle injury suffered in August kept him out until November. He caught flu in February as well as pulling a hamstring and then injuring his knee.

    2011-2012: Robin&#8217;s most injury-free season since he signed for Arsenal, he picked up the obligatory ankle injury in August then had an injury free run until he picked up a little groin strain in February.


    What kind of coaches do you have at Arsenal? <laugh>
     
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  20. Swarbs

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    Really?!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17766568
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21006473
    http://sports.ndtv.com/football/news/206620-mikel-arteta-injury-sparks-arsenal-concern
    http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/207280.html

    Four injuries in a little over two years hardly makes him ever present. And his only serious injury at Everton in the three seasons before he joined Arsenal was when he ruptured his cruciate, hardly an injury caused by training!

    P.S. astro stop spamming the site with picture links. If you want to make a point, then the text links will be fine. Tho' I'm not sure you want to compare 'dinosaur' Moyes' record with Liverpool's injury record using Verheijen's 'expert' method:

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