What truly is the difference between the "Man Up" comment and "It's not your leg, it's Liverpool's leg"?
Pay as you play and perform. you would probably get more out of players if they were paid based on those two criteria. Downing would be in serious financial trouble Footballers pull sickies like the rest of us
I disagree with this. Bill Shankly once said ''To be good enough for Liverpool you must be prepared to run through a brick wall and come out fighting on the other side''. Players that cry off injured just because they have the sniffles are no use to us. All he's doing is instilling toughness into his playersl both mentally and physically. He also said that he expects every player after a game to be able to wring the sweat out of their shirt. Any player that is unable to won't be there very long. He's not going to prick and about and say its going to be a holiday camp. Hard work needs to be done, and the ones prepared to do the hard work will get picked, the ones that don't can go find themselves a new club. The jury is out on every last player, the ones that put the shift in will be rewarded, the ones that don't won't.
At best 70% of what I say is rubbish The other 30% is pure genius though The problem BR has at the moment is that he's centre of attention, until he goes on a winning run everything he says will be dug through for a headline to try and pressure him. He has to get used to that but personally I don't think he should be crucified for saying what let's be honest we all know...certain players do need to man up. He might be making a rod for his own back but then I'd rather that than him pandering to anyone who might be underperforming.
Exactly. Those players are pampered enough, whats he supposed to do, give them a cuddle? On the contrary, if they don't perform, he is supposed to kick them in the balls ( okay not physically) until they do perform. He's doing the right thing by instilling mental and physical toughness. Should the players respond, they will reap the rewards.
To be fair, he has been playing. He would only be hard up if it was performance related Edit: I really must learn to read
We hired the best sports medicine guy we could find in Dr. Brukner. FSG sacked him, presumably to save wages because we had the 3rd best record for days lost through injury, behind City and Wigan. So the injury thing is something else FSG will have to answer for at the end of the season. I hardly think saying it after a high-profile squad size ****-up is showing faith. More like a desperate attempt to made do. Is it about time? Well, Rafa played Kelly in the Champions League and gave Robinson his first start. Kenny had Flano and Robinson out there and latterly Sterling, so trust was already there. But it was down to Rafa and Kenny that we were producing decent youngsters again so no surprise they had that faith.
Hi all just thought I'd post a vid to show Shelvey's goal and assist in the under 21 england game against azerbaijan: [video=youtube;gZAUek2dM5U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZAUek2dM5U[/video] Fairly decent assist and finish. Hopefully he can start more games for us this season and can contribute assists and goals for our 1st team.
Great delivery for the first goal, and he did well scoring the second himself. Hopefully he can do similar for us. I'm convinced he's going to be a terrific footballer.
With respect, Bill managed in a period when players were out on the lash big style, smoked 60-a-day and generally lived a playboy lifestyle (if they could afford it). Playing with broken collar bones or ribs was not only possible, but happened fairly regularly. Nowadays, players are very much athletes, and those at the very top are playing at a very high level of fitness and honing. I have no problems asking a player to stop moaning about getting tapped during a match, diving, rolling about etc. We can see those players straight away, as they are running about again in 30 seconds. But because top players are operating at the edge of what is possible with the human body, to ask them not to risk a prolonged injury by playing through a 'niggle' would be a wise precaution. In context of the conversation as shown above, it looks like Brendan was getting carried away, but with the injury to Lucas comng only a few days earlier, it might have been wiser not to make such a statement. It also suggests (perhaps unconsciously) that despite saying he hopes the youngsters also step up to take their chances, that he's not thinking of making extensive use of that resource...
Yeah, I really rate Shelvey. He's a fantastic talent. I just need Henderson to produce some glimpses of his talent, too. He, also, can do very well at the club.
While I agree that using players until they are permanently damaged is bad management in general as you can see players playing until they're 40 now but I do find it ironic that the players of yesteryear crippled themselves by the end of their twenties for their clubs with very little back up in physiotherapy or sports science; most largely had no formal education and were paid peanuts; hence the sad stories of some selling medals in their twilight years to feed themselves. While elite (important distinction) footballers today have all that backup and get paid more in half a year than any of us will see in a lifetime of work. If they are sensible they never have to "work" again financially after a year playing football. I bloody expect them to play "on the edge" physically or in other words "man up" because that's why they are paid the elite wages. Alternatively they can play lower league football, take less risks and get paid less money. Obviously (& being quite cold here) we want to look after expensive club assets but this has to be balanced with getting the utmost out of that asset while they are ours. And quite frankly FSG's policy of buy them young, use them and sell them on before they're old & expensive means quite frankly the club shouldn't give a toss how bad the players knees are by his thirties. We will have paid him millions of pounds by then.
Self importance. Too much of it. The team is supposedly is what it is all about, not individuals. Really? RvP Rooney and others have shown it is their egos that are important. Both felt the clubs they played were not matching THEIR ambitions. One left for this reason and the other threatened to do so. This is an indication of how players see things. It's all Me Me Me. Modric? Me me me Cashley? the list goes on and on. Self importance much? Hence little niggles to these self important twats must be taken very seriously by EVERYONE because that person with the niggle is so IMPORTANT! I had a brief flashback to Terry Butcher and his big head bandage please log in to view this image
Liverpool have their own in Steven Gerrard. He's Liverpools self appointed spokesperson, everything that has been done has to meet Stevies approval. Its just not right. Players should know where their place is.
Shelvey is a great finisher with great delivery. He also has energy, a good first touch and a great love for attacking. Needs to watch his tackling and bulk up a little. But yes, exciting player. He has been better than Gerrard so far this season.
i personally think its time to stop talking and start delivering. rodgers record is 0-1-2... the two losses were poor enough performances so i'd much rather he staters ensuring we deliver some level of consistent performance and shores up the defense. I am of the opinion he likes the sound of his own voice far too much. from day one when he directly contradicted tom warner on DoF he's been on a road that i think can only pain him into a corner. Less mouth more trousers is the messgae i think
