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Man City v Arsenal

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by remembercolinlee, Nov 2, 2017.

  1. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    Everyone is getting their knickers in a twist about City "buying the league" but the rest of the top clubs have done exactly that too. Manure have spent bucket loads, Chelsea have and so have we. I mean we spent £35m on bloody Xhaka for example!

    Every single team has an expensively assembled team with plenty of quality. They all have a realistic chance of winning the PL but it's the manager and system which takes the team to the next level. Pep has taken it to the next level and Poch isn't that far behind.
     
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    It's easy to say that when Arsenal are dross and at no risk of winning it <whistle>
     
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  3. Diego

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    This attitude always makes me laugh, when City spent £50m each on Stirling, Stones and Walker everyone said they were ****, now they are buying the league because it turns out they are quite good in the right team, City bought Jesus, who else had heard of him? he is quite good too.
    As a United supporter we bought "Carlton Pogba for £90m and useless Lukaku for £70m, if we happen to beat City to the title will we have bought the league with **** players too?
     
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  4. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    Don't remember anyone saying Walker was **** tbh.
    The issue is about Pep Guardiola bring a "genius...everyone says what a great job he's doing but surely that needs qualifying.
    SAF's genius was the home grown core of the team winning titles, cups, CLs etc.
    Guardiola has simply bought everything he needed. The media enjoyed Blackburn and Chelsea winning the League but regularly talked about their spending.
    Yet they never talk about city' s spending. NO club in pram history had ever spent well over a THIRD OF A BILLION POUNDS in just over a year on top of already having Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne and Kompany.
    Sorry but that equates to buying the league to me.
    He got no stick last season after spending £170m and not getting close to winning a trophy. AVB was rightly ridiculed after spending £100m and losing his only world class player as was Brendan Rodgers when he lost Suarez and spent £120m.
    If he doesn't win the title by a country mile it'll be a joke imho.
     
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  5. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    I have no love for Pep and feel he has walked into the best job in every league he has been in, I am just pointing out the contradictions in supporters opinions, everybody laughs at prices paid for players stating how **** they are (even Walker outside Tottenham), but when those players do well and win the league it's all "oh, they bought the league".
    We all buy what we can to "buy the league", some pay big money for big names and fail, some pay big money for "not worth it" players and succeed.
    Managers stand and fall on their player selections. Klopp at Liverpool has bought players that fit his team for relatively low prices, Poch has done the same, if either win anything they will have done well and proved their knowledge. By the same token, if a manager has to pay over the odds for "****" that he thinks will suit his team and is proved right then he should get the same credit from supporters.
     
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  6. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
     
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  7. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think Pep is a genius but you have to give him credit for making his team play some very good football and making them PL favourites for the time being. Poch will always get more plaudits and rightfully so. But we're talking about modern football and the prices of players have shot through the roof.

    Take my team for example, we've spent some serious cash recently and smashed our record many times over, yet have gone backwards in the PL. Who's fault is that? We have some proper quality but still look some way back. We always look to blame others but sometimes the blame is close to home.

    Despite City's ridiculous budget, there is still enough around to pose a challenge
     
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  8. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    I’m with RCL on this. Anybody who spends £400m on top of a squad that cost £800m would have to be an utter chump not to win the league.
     
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  9. BobbyD

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    You mean the system that didnt work last year when he didnt spend the 170m this season?
     
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    Paulpowersleftfoot Well-Known Member

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    Never talk about City's spending????
    Fack me they talk of nothing else
     
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  11. The RDBD

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    He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty chump.
     
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    Despite how much he has spent. He knows what he requires to get his method to produce results. I knew after his debut season, he would dominate this league for 2/3 yrs. In fairness he should be ducked points for the resources at his disposal but he brand of football with the right personnel is devastating. He knows it requires very high quality players to execute his style. He is a high end manager.
     
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  13. The RDBD

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    A "style" that cannot be executed unless you inherit a
    batch of said players, or have Sugga Daddy money to go
    and buy from teams that possess them.
     
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    Well evidently not the case. He took over a dominant Bayern team who were at the top of their game and bought all the players he wanted. He failed to win the CL.
     
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    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    He Barca-fied the Munich machine of 2012-13.
    But allegedly during his time he did increase their ... wage bill.
     
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  16. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    It's not the best thing to do, but Real, Barca, Bayern, Man U etc. all do it too.I always wonder why Real or Barca never get stick, whereas the newbees get it in the neck. Is it because they are the nouveau riche? Whether we like it or not, world football isn't fair and hasn't been for ages. The usual suspects will continue to rein dominant as long as the elite maintain their current trend.

    But at least City play some damn entertaining football. Look at Man U, they've spend shed loads but Maureen still parks the bus. Pep's teams play open expansive football that give the opposing teams chances, Maureen just stifles the game to death until they score. You might as well go home if any of his teams score the first goal!
     
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    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Maureen is like Tony Pulis with money.
     
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  18. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    At least Pulis has an excuse for playing sh1t football, what is Maureens?
     
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  19. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    You need to get out more (into not606 land) . :)
    The Spurs board has regular hate sessions for La Liga
    state-sponsored c**t clubs.


    "But at least City play some damn entertaining football."

    So have the Poool for much of the past 4 seasons.
     
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  20. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    At least you did Real over on both legs!
     
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