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Man City killed futbol

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Prince Isak (GG), Nov 7, 2018.

  1. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    I don't know why man City would significantly increase his wages. He will never achieve or perform any better than the team he's at now. Which other club would pay his fee or his wages? As far as fulfilling his career goals and achievments he needs Man City more than Man City need him. You could say he over achieves at man City and fits in perfectly. If he went to someone like Barcelona, Madrid etc he could easily fall flat on his face.
     
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  2. Seabass

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    I cant lie. I like watching Man City play. If you do look at the league as a whole it is by far more competative than the other leagues in Europe. It's interesting at both ends Of The league. Unfortunately we are at the wrong end.

    Also successful football clubs are good for the community and country as a whole. The thing that does annoy me is that it definitely stops clubs playing the kids. Especially teams at the lower end scrapping to stay in the moneyball league.
     
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  3. Captainchaos.

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    Who cares we've got Ashley
     
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    <laugh><laugh><laugh><applause>
     
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  5. JakartaToon

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    You are not a Geordie - you can’t be expected to pick it up just by regularly reading our board.
     
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  6. JakartaToon

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    He would probably get another penalty when he did.
     
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  7. JakartaToon

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    FFP doesn’t seem to be enforceable as City are clearly not spending within their revenue limit.

    The only way to try and level the playing field would be to have a salary cap per first team team and a set points deduction per season for exceeding it with points deducted based on how much you exceed it.

    Difficulty would be getting the cap value right. Too low and players would prefer to play elsewhere in Europe, too high and small clubs couldnt compete as they couldnt afford it.
     
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  8. General Lee Speaking 1st

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    Things will invariable go on in the shadows to ensure the gap in wealth is maintained.
     
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  9. Paulpowersleftfoot

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    La Liga chief communications officer Joris Evers, has used the spurious claims of poorly written sneering, biased articles in a
    German magazine and website, Der Spiegel, to peddle lies about Manchester City and Paris St German.

    Evers opined “The Football Leaks documents appear to confirm what we
    have been saying for years. Both PSG and Manchester City are cheating
    and should be sanctioned. We certainly hope Uefa will take the right decisions and enforce Financial Fair Play rules, but we don't have
    full confidence that they will.”

    Evers went further, and threatened "Should Uefa fail to act, we will do what we have said before: launch a complaint with European Union competition authorities."

    The Der Spiegel articles are based on what they say are hacked emails between City executives.

    UEFA’s so-called Financial Fair regulations were implemented by the discredited and corrupt Michel Platini. A man who is banned for his wrong doing in football. The so-called FInancial Fair Play regulations were introduced due to pressure from Europe’s Establishment clubs who wanted to maintain their cartel of dominance, and prevent the likes of Manchester City and Paris St Germain from competing at the top table
    of football, particularly in the Champions League. Clubs like Liverpool, Manchester United , Arsenal Bayern Munich, Juventus,
    Barcelona, Real Madrid and other members of Establishment were all highly influential in the shape of these self-serving and ultimately corrupt Financial Fair Play regulations, which were anything but about
    Financial Fair Play. The hypocrisy was and is staggering. Ridiculous rules that are anti-competitive.

    Terrified of a breakaway by the Establishment, as well as corrupt, UEFA implemented these rules at short notice with City and PSG both receiving fines for not reaching deliberately unrealistic targets.
    In effect, lines were drawn around City and PSG to catch the two clubs out. It is fair also to wonder whether there is an element of racism and Islamophobia to the way that the Establishment clubs are trying to exclude City and PSG.

    City were fined £49m (£32m of which was suspended) and had to operate with a reduced squad in the Champions League.

    Legal action was considered, both City and PSG, as the regulations are anti-competitive but City executives worked hard to comply with UEFA’s rules, and City are now a profitable business.

    City have done nothing wrong, and the same probably applies to PSG.
    There is nothing wrong with an owner investing in a club, especially when that investment is a gift and does not saddle the club with debt.
    UEFA’s so-called Financial Fair Play regulations go against the principles of business as well as being anti-competitive. In what other walk of life would a businessman not be allowed not to invest in their business?

    The Der Spiegel piece looks like its been written by some bitter 14 year old Bayern fan who doesn’t leave his bedroom very often.

    The article also allege that FIFA President Gianni Infantini in his UEFA days agreed a lenient punishment for City as a “settlement”. How can that be “lenient”. City should not have paid a penny or had any punishment for corrupt FFP regulations.

    Der Spiegel also claim that Sheikh Mansour directly funded most of the Etihad sponsorship deal.

    This does not hold water when especially after Etihad Airways’ statement:

    "The airline’s financial obligations, associated with the partnership
    of the club and the broader City Football Group, have always been, and
    remain, the sole liability and responsibility of Etihad Airways. This is reflected in the airline’s audited accounts."

    Etihad’s and City’s accounts are audited by respected companies whose reputations rest on doing an ethical job. No one in their right mind is going to believe an amateurish journalist or anyone else with an agenda over them, except other people with an agenda, such as La Liga executives who are sore that City and PSG who have the capability to the dominance of their clubs in Europe. In any case La Liga are hardly
    the guardians of fair play when they allow two clubs, Real Madrid and Barcelona to have a grossly disproportionate amount of income from TV deals etc. The same La Liga that has allowed Real Madrid to be bankrolled by some very dodgy land deals such as the sale of their training ground at a hugely inflated price.

    A convicted criminal like Uli Hoeness, his club Bayern Munich and La Liga
    executives and self-serving Establishment clubs are nobody to be judging Manchester City. La Liga is an uncompetitive league in which Barcelona and Real Madrid have won 13 of the last 14 titles. Bayern Munich have won the last 6 Bundesliga titles. People like Tebas and Evers of La Liga and Rummenigge and that convicted crook Hoeness are no one to be judging City.

    It all seems rather coincidental that these allegations and also the news that FIFA are investigating City over allegations made that the Blues signed an agreement with Danish club FC Nordsjaelland allowing us to sign African players without a fee. Their Chairman has said no one has been forced to move.

    Could it be the hand of Gill that is pulling the strings here in a clearly orchestrated and choreographed attack on City? David Gill
    doesn’t have influential FA, UEFA and FIFA for no reason.

    All this in a week when Anthony Taylor, the self-styled “Altrincham fan” from Wythenshawe with two brothers who are United season ticket holders. Hmm, I wonder how big a branch the Wythy branch of Altrincham supporters branch is? In round figures. If a Merseyside based referee
    cannot referee a Merseyside Derby then how can someone from the Manchester area with such connections referee a Manchester Derby?

    The real corruption is being obfuscated by what are likely to be bogus allegations against City. Hopefully City can overcome the corruption of others.

    But, but, you’re in denial, someone might say. You’re just blinded by loyalty. No, not at all. If I felt something was wrong with
    our club, I’d say so. Like Pep Guardiola, I have no reason to distrust the people who run Manchester City so well.
     
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  10. Rum & Black for 2

    Rum & Black for 2 Champion’s League Prediction League Champion
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    But

    1. If there are rules and you’re not complying with them then you are cheating. If you are part of a League with rules it doesn’t matter who makes the rules. If you don’t agree with the rules then leave or lobby to change the rules. I can’t say I’ve heard anything to suggest Man C are trying to lobby support to change the rules. If you don’t agree with the rules you just don’t ignore them and break them as that’s cheating.

    2. City haven’t stated the latest e-mails have been altered, just that they’ve been hacked and stolen.

    The Taylor thing happened to us just a few weeks ago if my memory is not letting me down and I agree it’s absolutely ridiculous that he should be refereeing any Manchester Clubs games.

    Also agree FFP rules are flawed but where do you stand in relation to Clubs being subject to some sort of financial regulation as historically Club Owners have demonstrated a bewildering inability to responsibly manage and run Clubs with Leeds and Portsmouth being probably the biggest known named ones.

    Also where do you stand with regard to “State” owned Clubs as opposed to “Business” owned Clubs. Yes City’s owners appear to have done a lot for the Club and the local area but is this not just “sports washing” at its best?

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/nov/06/manchester-city-uefa-financial-fair-play

    https://www.theguardian.com/law/2018/nov/11/manchester-city-owners-accused-sportswashing-gulf-image
     
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  11. Paulpowersleftfoot

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    1 they haven’t broken any rules,there is no proof whatsoever that they have other than unsubstantiated allegations. Why are there no copies of any of the said emails?
    2 they have just said they wouldn’t comment on emails that have been hacked or stolen

    FFP was introduced to keep the fat cats fat
    Nothing else,it had nothing to do with Portsmouth Leeds etc
    If they can come up with a fair system for all then I’d be all for it

    I’d much rather have Sheikh Mansour than Mike Ashley owning my football club
     
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  12. Albert's Chip Shop

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    I’d love to see a spending cap and wages cap imposed.

    That will help sort the debate over who is the best coach as all will have the same tools.
     
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  13. Paulpowersleftfoot

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    Too many ways for wealthy clubs to circumvent that for it to happen fairly though
     
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  14. Prince Isak (GG)

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    Watching them tear manu apart is just boring as hell. I get a slight smile out of it because I know Jose will be fuming.

    It’s basically a training ground match with attack v defence.
     
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    I remember a Spaniard parking the bus just like Jose has..... and getting lambasted.

    Wonder if Jose will get Pelters for his defensive approach?
     
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  17. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Can't remember what I was commenting on <laugh>
     
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  18. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    I checked. I wasn't commenting on the post. Just the use of the word 'mauranded' <laugh>
     
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  19. leez

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    rather it be man city , than manure. any day
     
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  20. JakartaToon

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    I just assumed it must be a Geordie word as well as I had no idea what it meant. It sounded right though.
     
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