Not quite - Staying 'for' now and only reprieved according to this article - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25486597
An increasing number of perfectly rational and otherwise successful people cannot grasp the "realities" of English football, including the mentality of players and fans. The question to ask is which heads are actually most firmly screwed on. People bewail the state of our national game, the near bankruptcy of the majority of clubs, the head-in-the-sand refusal of those in charge to tackle any of the fundamental problems, yet when anybody adopts an unfamiliar approach and tries to change things, uproar breaks out and sacred cows are hysterically defended.
Not entirely sure where you are coming from on this.Are you defending Tan? If you are then you will find yourself in a pretty tiny minority.Of course he may be right and the rest of the world wrong.Does changing things include sacking the most successful manager they have ever had?
Minorities are not always wrong! IMO there's a lot wrong with the current realities of English football and I welcome anyone and anything that rocks the mindless "this is how it's always been so it is obviously best" attitude.
Pretty sure earlier you said that if it is only the minority of fans that are against Mr Tan then they shouldn't be bowed down to...
My saying that minorities are not ALWAYS wrong was in reply to Cruyff's suggesting a particular minority of 1, namely me! Minorities often are wrong, though not because they are minorities. The majority can be wrong too. What I said was that if fans want to be taken seriously and have their voice heard, they need to demonstrate that they are representative of the club's fans as a whole, not just of an unrepresentative minority.
By the way, if people think everything was rosy before Tan and Ghee took the club over (together with its accumulated debt and facing winding up orders from HMRC due to unpaid taxes), they perhaps need reminding that the previous owners were those home-grown pillars of the football establishment Sam Hammam and Peter Ridsdale. Since taking over, Tan has reached agreements with the previous owners putting the club on track to become debt-free. He has rescued Cardiff, and has transformed the club's prospects, in much the same way as DM and our owners have rescued and transformed our own club. Yet the guy is being portrayed as a villain and clown and subjected to public vilification. Cardiff fans have far more reason to be grateful to him than they have to be grateful to Malky, just as we have more reason to be grateful to DM and our owners than we have to be grateful to Paul Lambert for what he did.
Robbie,do you need to declare an interest in this? Is Vince perchance your uncle? I think that anyone can tell that he is probably in the Cap'n Bob Maxwell mould.The only difference being that the latter had the good sense not to rock the boat quite so much.Well not in the football sense at least,in other respects he probably rocked it too much. I have been in business for nearly 40 years and these bigshots often have far less substance than meets the eye.Witness what happened in 2007/8.Their main talent seems to be in persuading the gullible to lend them vast sums of money which they then use to inflate their egos. On the Cardiff fiasco it seems that,for the time being at least,public opinion has brougt VT to heel.It remains to be seen for how long now that Malky has brought about such humiliation.He won't like that one bit.
I'm not quite sure what Mr Tan has to gain in creating this situation? Malky appears to be doing a decent job, Cardiff are not in the relegation zone and it looks like they will stay up. If Malky gets the sack, who else is going to replace him and do a better job? When you sack someone like Malky who has got the team up and built a good team spirit it can quickly turn. Alright maybe Malky did overspend but Mr Tan had to sign the transfers off, maybe he should write himself a letter and sack himself for being a useless MD? All Mr Tan is doing is creating bad feeling that will lead to instability, not good, especially in your first year in the premier league. He obviously has an axe to grind with this transfers business hence the sacking of the head scout a couple of months ago, but there comes a time when you just have to leave it alone and move on.
My only interest is in looking positively on anything or anyone which/who tries to break the dinosaurian mould of English football. You have your opinion about Tan, Cruyff, but you have chosen to ignore my last post about how he has taken huge steps to reduce the load of debt hanging round Cardiff's neck (created by our very own home-grown "big shots" Hammam and Ridsdale) and now has the club on the path to becoming debt-free (which incidentally didn't stop someone on here accusing Tan of loading debt onto the club, the very opposite of what he is actually doing as far as I can determine). Tan is doing what DM and our board have done for us. Why are people ignoring that and simply focussing on his run in with Malky. And, incidentally, there's almost certainly more to the latter than meets the eye. How come Tan's email to Malky ended up being read by Neil Kinnock, who has no official connection with CCFC but has nevertheless been pontificating on the issue in true Kinnock fashion? (Just another example of the circus that football degenerates into time and again.) Read my signature. Cortese is another who recognises that the circus has to stop. These people need support, not vilification.
I have met Kinnock on several occasions.If we are talking vilification he is a good subject to begin with.I suppose you think Murdoch brought a welcome breath of fresh air to journalism and football.If it's a circus Murdoch is certainly the ringmaster.
What has Murdoch got to do with it? Did he engineer the Premier League breakaway? Of course not, it was the big, established First Division clubs who saw an opportunity and exploited it.
Best let this go as it is now lapsing into ancient history,soon JWM will be joining in.I just saw a rich oddball,who just happened to be foreign,being thoroughly beastly to someone who appears to be a decent sort of fellow doing a difficult job quite well.As they say in the modern idiom - end of.
As apparently does Malky -- "fight" being the appropriate word. Doesn't seem very sensible to go public backing the fans' "right to protest" against Tan at the match tomorrow. You'd think it was in his and everyone's interest to take the heat out of the situation, not stoke the fire further. Does Malky actually want to be sacked?
Nobody knows either the workings of people's minds or the entire run of minute details of the interchanges between these two,but this may be how it panned out: Firstly Tan sacks Malky's head scout to put some young lad in charge.We can most likely assume that this was against Malky's wishes. So,when this E mail situation arises and everybody,fans,other managers,the media,politicians all take Malky's side the balance of power swings so strongly against Tan that he is unable to follow through with the sacking.Malky the shrewd Glasgae street fighter that he is sees that he is now in a win win situation and,in a Machiavellian piece of chutzpah goes on the offensive.Tan may have bitten off more than he can chew here. Given this scenario the backing of the fans right to protest is a rational next move as it drives a wedge further between Tan and everyone else.This is becoming quite fascinating.
I wonder how many Cardiff fans initially welcomed Tan as their 'knight in shining armour' and are now venting their wrath against him?? Does highlight the issues of rich backers buying clubs. I'm sure I'm not alone in hoping that Delia, Michael and co remain firmly in charge at CR. IMO, the most important person has to be McNally and as long as he is in charge, I'm confident that we will be OK.
As I said in earlier, being sacked does Malky more favours than remaining in the job does. If he leaves now, his reputation is untarnished, and he'll be a shoe-in for the next opening at the top of the championship, or with a lower Prem side. If he stays on, he knows he's overachieved so far this season, and with the destabilising effect Tan is having on the club, the chances of him keeping Cardiff up drop. If they get relegated, he undoubtedly gets the sack, but then he's been responsible for relegating a team, so doesn't look like quite such a good candidate for any managerial openings, so he probably rules out any chance of getting a second stab at the Prem for a season or two. Ideal situation for Malky is to get sacked before the January transfer window has started, or at least when there's plenty of it left, and walk into the WBA job (whose CEO/MD/whatever has said in the past he won't pay compensation for managers), and have most of January to identify the gaps in his squad and try to improve them.
