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Magilton/ Keane/ Jewell/ McCarthy transfer fees spent

Discussion in 'Ipswich Town' started by Westlake33, Feb 28, 2014.

  1. itfcptc

    itfcptc Well-Known Member

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    Think you summed it up pretty well tbh Mike. I'd looking back at the Magilton sacking, he didn't help himself but for a young manager the expectations of the club and supporters didn't help either, looking back now whilst he wasn't doing a great job toward the end you feel maybe with a bit of patience we might have improved eventually, I think he was starting to realise what went wrong. I think it's a shame he's been out of management so long because I think he showed some very good potential in his early days, particularly spotting a player and building balanced exciting teams, he certainly the manager who has been closest to Burley.

    I'm actually pleased in a way we are no longer splashing the cash for once i feel we're trying to do things the right way
     
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  2. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    Can we please just get away from this absurd notion that by spending some money we would be 'splashing the cash!' I am in no way suggesting that ME should be turning on the cash taps to the same extent as previously. All I am saying is that Mick should have been backed with at least some money in the last two windows. Mick has proven what he can do with a limited group of players brought in for next to nothing! Surely it is now time to give him some real funding to add to the areas that we are lacking! Quality midfielders come at a price especially those that are creative and if we are going to progress into a promotion winning team ME must get out the chequebook and give Mick some money! I don't think what I am saying is unreasonable just good old common sense.
     
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  3. itfcptc

    itfcptc Well-Known Member

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    Can we please move away from this absurd notion that quality midfielders have to come at a price and that Mick even if he had the cash would buy a creative CM. Although he actually did he spend over 200k last year on Wordsworth but never plays him.

    As others have said how do we know that Mick wasn't given money to spend over the last 2 transfer windows but just decided against it because he got the players he wanted??
     
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  4. Mike_Holmes1990

    Mike_Holmes1990 Well-Known Member

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    PTC, I think funds probably were limited and we did miss out on some targets (Stearman) because of it, but that's not to say Mick was lying when he daid he was happy with what he has.

    I think we were in need of a season like this to get our finances looking a little more sensible (assuming SEB and Hunt in particular are on sensible wages). I'd hope that between now and the summer transfer window the powers that be sit down with Mick, Terry, Bryan, etc. and they all discuss targets for next season, areas of the squad that need improving and strategy's for doing so, then maybe loosening the purse strings that little but more again.
     
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  5. Westlake33

    Westlake33 Well-Known Member

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    "As others have said how do we know that Mick wasn't given money to spend over the last 2 transfer windows but just decided against it because he got the players he wanted??"

    Seriously, a manager would be offered money to spend, to improve key areas of the squad, when it's in chronic need of it, and he said " no you're okay thanks, I'd rather have an impossible job ". I think it's fairly safe to say Mick wasn't given much to spend.

    The only manager that fits what you're saying is Arsene Wenger.

    " I am in no way suggesting that ME should be turning on the cash taps to the same extent as previously. All I am saying is that Mick should have been backed with at least some money in the last two windows. "

    I absolutely 100% agree with this. The money we were handing out to the likes of Magilton and Keane were ridiculous figures, and this is unsustainable without promotion. However, to go from a warchest, for a manager to contend with a Yeovil Town transfer budget is ridiculous.

    One way or other, Mick or whoever is incharge next season requires to be backed to a larger extent I would say. Otherwise, I really fail to see how we can expect anything more than 8th - 17th season on season.

    The day Evans took over, the debts went to him, and the rumours of us having ££££ to spend I was so happy. Never did I imagine back then, that league 1 Norwich would be the established Premiership side, whereas we would become an absolute laughing stock wasting ££££ left right and centre.
     
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  6. itfcptc

    itfcptc Well-Known Member

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    Oh I agree it wouldn't have been a great deal that he was offered but it might have been a reasonable amount but the transfer market has changed and free transfer are becoming much more of the norm so perhaps he did get some of the players he wanted on a free and those that he felt could add extra were out of our price range so he made do with what we have.

    A little bit of extra money wouldn't go a miss but why break trying to be self sufficient if we can slowly get improvements to the team. I'm reserving my judgment until the next transfer window, it is dissapointing that out of all the managers he's had less to spend but then again going on previous transfers when Micks had money he's often wasted it or way overspent given what he has spent, so I'm currently content with how things are going.
     
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  7. WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM

    WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM Well-Known Member

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    Who IS anywhere close to Bobby Robson let alone someone who would realistically come to us.....:huh:
     
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  8. Westlake33

    Westlake33 Well-Known Member

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    I'm as curious as you Weighty. Very much looking forward to Hamps response on this front.
     
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  9. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    I thought it was obvious who Hampy wants as our manager...! <whistle>
     
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  10. WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM

    WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM Well-Known Member

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    Yup Hampy wants..............................................Hampy as manager.....:emoticon-0104-surpr
     
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  11. tractor bhoy

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    don't forget that SBR (GOD) was an almost managerial nobody when we appointed him so it could be nearly anyone! It was only the faith of the board and time that allowed the great man to develop. It was board loyalty that allowed him to flourish and the reciprocal loyalty that meant we had the privilege of having a legend for so long.
     
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    WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM Well-Known Member

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    Too right that's why I always think a manager should be given plenty'o'time.
     
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  13. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    You are if course right in what you say but for every SBR there are as many John Duncan's, Mick McGivens, Bobby Fergusons, Jackie Milburns, Jim Magiltons etc...
     
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  14. itfcptc

    itfcptc Well-Known Member

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    you can't put Jim Magilton in that list surely???
     
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  15. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    Yep I'm afraid so! <ok>
     
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  16. Bigalreigned

    Bigalreigned Well-Known Member

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    Bobby Ferguson was unlucky to take over when he did with the Club in the state it was,paying the debt for the Pioneer Stand,breakup of the squad etc.With what he had to work with he nearly got us promoted. Plus as SBR's right hand man he must have had quite a lot to offer otherwise he wouldn't have held the position he did for so long.
     
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  17. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    Given the circumstances that Bobby Ferguson inherited I guess it would be a bit harsh to include him in that list! Afterall said and done he did keep us in the first division for four years and at the same time he had to sell the likes of mariner, Warky, the Dutchmen etc.
     
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  18. itfcptc

    itfcptc Well-Known Member

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    really why??
     
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