Have you come across the works of Michel Foucault in your studies? I always found his works on crime and punishment very interesting, and was for me a real eye opener on the way the disciplinary system has evolved in many western societies.
**** my old boots, another first, me in agreement with you [ got a puzzled look on my face though, more of a James A mitchener man myself ]
but whatever you said must be right. now got to see what he comes back with, you can explain later. or I can WIKI it.

. Sometimes you wouldn't think that this forum was filled with adults. You'd think it was filled with kids.