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Luzon gets Vote of Confidence

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  1. SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious

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    I've only found it on charlton choice tv so far and it's not clear. What is clear though is how pathetic an attempt is made to get the ball.
     
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  2. Ken Shabby

    Ken Shabby Well-Known Member

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    I have to admit, on a quiet morning at work, I'm on the Charlton fórums basically waiting for the news that Luzón is out. It's got that 'Pardew after Sheffield Utd' feel about it. Someone just reminded me that Murray promised the fans that under the new owners we would'nt have to sell the promising youth players for a quick buck. You there Richard?
     
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  3. SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious

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    Selling Gomez was great business.

    It allowed us to strengthen the team in every position with players like Sarr, Bergdich, and Ba. I look forward to telling my grandkids about the time I saw Ba successfully pass the ball 5 yards to his left.

    It hasnt happened yet, but any game now.
     
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  4. SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious

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    Having seen it back, it's definitely Bergdich.
     

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  5. Miketyson2007

    Miketyson2007 Well-Known Member

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    Sacking Luzon would mean we bring in another puppet from. Some foreign outpost who is already in RD employment and waiting in the wings.
    At his first Presser we will be told he's the man blah blah blah results will pick up we finish lower mid table heats off RD and KM fans chant the new muppets name.
    RD nuthuggers talk about the wonderful football we are playing.
    We get rid of a host of players In the Summer including one or two academy prospects .
    Then this time next season we will be here again.
    Sacking Luzon alone will solve nothing RD has to go simple as that .
     
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  6. ForestHillBilly

    ForestHillBilly Well-Known Member

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    Oddly enough I hope Luzon doesn't get sacked because that will deflect from where the real problem lies. As others are saying there is something rotten at the heart of OUR club. All these mystery injuries- Kashi, Vetokele, Reza. What on earth is going on at training? Igor was a very good player when he came to Charlton- now look at him. Look also at what happened to Bikey, the way he went downhill. When Gomez got injured playing for England I thought Thank God he's not in the hands of our medical department. JBG and Watt are other players who are going downhill- Watt can only play about 75minutes. Even Diarra looks nowhere near the classy performances at the beginning of the season.
     
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  7. Ponders Revisited

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    Luzon must go.

    I do sympathise with his plight, I really do, but he has clearly lost the players' confidence, and his team selections are nothing short of bizarre.

    I'd go with Jacko and Matthew as immediate replacements, with Jacko operating as player-manager in the same way Steve Gritt did. Do this before Saturday, and there may be a chance of an upbeat crowd turning up in numbers.

    The club needs a boon at any cost (remember CP's first match as manager?), and Roly will do well to appoint someone we know and respect.

    I'm probably dreaming, though.
     
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  8. andy217

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    As a short term remedy that may well provide an answer but won't make the underlying issue go away. Changing the manager is like moving the deck chairs on the titanic.

    Would JJ really want to do it? In the same way Luzon has potentially damaged KAG and THD would the same not be the case with JJ as manager under the Belgians?

    The answer to this plight is obvious however the answer is not as obviously achieved.
     
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    I've absolutely no doubt Jacko would take on the job. He is out of contract at the end of the season and would do whatever possible to continue at a club he undoubtedly loves and cares for. Whether the experiment would work long term is certainly debatable, yet the slide needs to be arrested now, and Saturday provides the perfect opportunity.

    Luzon is beleaguered. He must go with immediate effect.
     
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    Remember Les Reed. He was doing good work as a coach, and I'm told he is doing great stuff at Southampton now. However, we promoted him to manager, it did'nt work and he left the club, so we lost a decent coach in a petty bid to save money and keep it in the family. JJ would be under the same enormous thumb as Luzón, and assuming he made it to the end of the season, next summer he would be able to watch the owner saw his legs off with another half witted recruitment drive. Does he actually know how to be manager? Would he want that poison chalice just now?
    10.30 UK time and Luzón continues in charge. Any movement at Sparrows lane or the Marriot Bexleyheath? (I hate that bloody hotel!)
     
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  11. SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious

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    He's doing an amazing job at Soton. He was just never cut out to be a manager unfortunately.
     
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    I used to know a football coach who attended his coaching classes, and didn't feel he learned anything from them. He reckoned Reed was a long-ball merchant.
     
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  13. SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious

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    For the life of me I can't remember who, possibly dowie - but they were referred to as BBC.

    Balls, bibs and cones.
     
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    ForestHillBilly Well-Known Member

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    Luzon is described as "Buoyant" on the OS. Seriously.
     
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    Maybe I'm not the brightest and don't understand the meaning of the word squad but this quote from Luzons press conference beggars belief.

    "I am fully confident that we have the quality in the squad"

    Surely even to a blind man the last nine games have shown this to be the most inept comment for decades!!
     
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    It appears from his interview that he is much keener than the head physio to get the injured players back in the starting 11 as early as possible.
     
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  17. SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious

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    There is no "squad". We have a starting XI and then the yoof.

    some of you will know this better than me - but a good businessman has to adapt and if things aren't quite right, hold court and address the problem. KM definitely is devoid of this quality, and whilst RD is successful in another world, he's got things horribly wrong within football.
     
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