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Luis Suarez: Liverpool reject £30m Arsenal bid for striker

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by luvgonzo, Jul 8, 2013.

  1. Krome

    Krome Well-Known Member

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    PSG probably would. Torres was never worth £50m even at his best
     
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  2. The Zlatan

    The Zlatan Well-Known Member

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    Torres was a special case. No team in the world is going to pay over £40 million for Suarez for a good number of reasons:-

    1. He's not worth it
    2. He's publicly declared his desire to leave
    3. He carries an awful reputation that can have huge effects on his employers
    4. He's going to miss a large handful of games at the beginning of the season because he's serving a ban
    5. He's inevitably going to pick up more bans
     
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  3. TheBear

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    1. He is absolutely worth £40 Million.

    He's proven in the Premierleague, only just turned 26 so his best years as a striker are still ahead of him and.. 190 Goals (70 assists) in 327 career appearences put him up there with anyone bar Ronaldo and Messi.

    The other thing about Suarez is he wins games. He scores big goals and seems to play better when angry.

    If Falcao/Cavani/Lewandowski are all worth £40+ Million then so is Suarez.

    2,3,4,5. I pretty much agree.
     
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  4. Batmoanu

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    I don't agree he is worth £40M to be honest. I don't think he is THAT good. I believe RVP, Falcao and Cavani are the 3 elite strikers in Europe who would demand crazy transfer fees (RVP not so much due to his age) and then you have the tier below consisting of your Agueros, Ibrahimovics, Rooneys, Lewandowskis and Suarez.

    That being said, when you do eventually buy a player for whatever price, I feel that the transfer fee describes said signing's worth to the club he is joining. While I don't think Suarez is a £40M player, you have to pay over the odds or as Fergie put it, go that extra yard, to sign him. You can't put a price on winning a league title so if Suarez fired us to one then £40M or even £50M will be seen as a snip.
     
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  5. ToledoTrumpton

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    You are very outspoken about Arsenal's need to sign quality players, to avoid relegation this year, but you also seem to be incredibly picky in which stars they sign.

    Here is a player who finished second top scorer and you (apparently) "don't think he is THAT good". I think that this is what I find most difficult to handle with our more negative fans. There is always that feeling that you don't really are not going to give up the advantage of knowing that the odds are against us winning.

    The general impression is that you derive more pleasure from saying "I told you so" than in Arsenal actually winning. Or perhaps, being more charitable, that you hope Arsenal win, but want to keep that impression of superiority that you feel you have, if you don't let yourself believe Arsenal can win.

    Personally, I always have a better time when I don't lose faith in the team. If I say "We are going to lose" and then we win, I don't get the same glow after the game, as if I kept belief; not sure why. I'm sure that is why the AKB crowd celebrate comeback victories so wildly and the anti-AKB crew sourly say we were lucky, and don't seem terribly happy even though we won.

    I think at this point, after 8 years, if you are not an AKB person (or some moderate variation of that), you have got used to hedging and even if we sign 5 world-class players you are still going to find fault, because it has become so engrained.
     
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  6. Batmoanu

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    Calm down child, I think Suarez is a world class striker and would love him at Arsenal at ANY price. I just don't think he is one of Europe's elite footballers ie RVP, Bale, Falcao, Cavani, Neymar, Thiago Silva, Ribery.
     
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  7. TheOXOCube:5pur2

    TheOXOCube:5pur2 Pride of North London

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    Neymar is elite but Suarez isn't? <doh>
     
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  8. Batmoanu

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    It's just my opinion, no need to slap your head about it.
     
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  9. ToledoTrumpton

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    Ya know - I think you finally made my ignore list.
     
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  10. The Zlatan

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    Normally I don't agree with what Batmoanu says but I kind of agree with that post to an extent. I'd take Bale out and swap Thiago Silva for Koscielny, of course.
     
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