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Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by Lan Logger, Jan 23, 2013.

  1. WURZEL LOYAL

    WURZEL LOYAL New Member

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    double post ...
     
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  2. Three Lions BS3

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    Mmmm where have we seen someone like that before, let's hope SoD last more than 3 games before he thinks **** this it's worse than I thought and Copped out


    Coppell was on holiday for months mate before he started his job properly. something was very very wrong straigt away at peterbrough when you are watching a team and its manager is on holiday!!!! redlays who run betting who are city fans put up odds up of him walking in a month. I didnt think he was the right fit 100% at the time. fans who met him in sweden on the tour said the same. Traincrash from the off coppell did not really seem to want the job and those who appointed him didnt do much of an interview.

    Dont feel the same about Odriscoll who is already at the club more than coppell was.

    As I said i hope to see a sensible improvement not miracles and the most simple one to me to affect is having a team that is more organised.
     
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  3. cidered abroad

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    Yes Wurzel you are correct that I do not see as many live games as those living in Bristol/UK. But I get over for about 6 to 8 matches a season and in the season after the Play-Off v Hull, I saw 12 home games and two away. Last season 8 including Watford away.
    This season three at home, Palace, Cardiff and Blackpool.
    I grew up listening to radio commentary in the early 50's and see all the video on I-Player.
    More specifically to LC. He has had atremendous career at City and I like many fans have a great admiration and respect for his consistency and committment over the years.
    But I genuinely believed during last season that while the heart was still willing his body was not as sharp as previously.
    Three examples from this season show my point of view;
    v Palace; 3 minutes into game Palace have a corner in front of Atyeo. Two attackers one of whom was the player LC was marking had an opportunity of a header at near post. Guy next to me said "My god if they had attacked the ball, we'd be one down"
    v Cardiff; All the Cardiff pressure and goals arrived by attacking us down their left/ our right side. Mark Wilson was a shamble but LC was also out of position too many times.
    v Leeds at Elland Road; First half corner to Leeds from their right. Carey left his man to join Fontaine so two City defenders marking one attacker. Result was a free header for the one LC should have been marking.

    Yes I am coming round to the opinion that Mcinnes did not organise the team very well if at all. That was his Achilles heel and probably the major reason for his lack of success.
    But LC has sixteen seasons to gather the basics of defending and he can't blame a manager for not doing what he has learnt through his career. Managers come and go but his experience should still ensure he does things right.

    I'm not picking him out and trying to put him down because he is actually better than several others in the squad. But I genuinely believe that there are too many including Louis at Ashton Gate who are now well past their "Best Before" date and that is the reason why we are well and truly in the brown stuff.
     
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  4. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    Bristol City are not bottom of the table because of Louis Carey. Louis Carey excelled end of last season and continues this season to out perform those with youth on their side.

    Why is an interesting question?

    Why did numerous members of the squad with youth on their side not reach the same standards of performance of a man in his mid thirties, improve technically, and in some cases appear to de-skill under Derek McInnes?

    My answer is the manager, nice bloke, but at this point in his carear out of his depth.
     
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  5. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    Very very true,louis carey is not the problem he completly outshines many in the team.
     
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  6. Premiershiporbust....

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    I still find it hard to stomach professional footballers paid many thousands of pounds a week need to be told how to play football. Specific instructions for the game, fine but how to to play a shape or formation is wrong.

    No doubt DM came here thinking he would have a squad of players with a basic understanding of how to play football however now that I think back to Millen's half time rants "how many ****ing times have I told you what to do and you still don't ****ing do it...!!!" etc - maybe not.

    Now I am all for inovation and new ideas but that is as others have said, disrespectful to DM...
     
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  7. Three Lions BS3

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    The Arsenal offside trap and the Milan pressing machine did not happen by accident. Every member of the squad had it brainwashed into them. Even top quality players spend a lot of time going over basics.

    No idea what type of team city were under McInnes the story of the team was confused. I find it easy to understand they were mess because they did not do things properly off the pitch with the coaches and manger. City looked like a team who were unprepared.
     
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  8. Red Alert

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    City this season looked like a team that had not been coached.
     
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  9. hawkmoonfy2

    hawkmoonfy2 Well-Known Member

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    We also do not know if LC spoke to DM perhaps that was why he was not being played unless you have a direct line into the club
     
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  10. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    From what I hear from.........you know who, in a polite way, man to man , he told him to **** off..
     
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  11. Red Robin

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    Makes sence wiz,could not understand why he was not playing.
     
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  12. cidered abroad

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    Wizered, or any other poster, if you were the owner or perhaps senior manager/director of a company, how would you react if an employee spoke to you in that manner? - if it is correct, you would find it difficult to work with that individual.
    If it is true, then am I and others not correct when we say that the idiots are still running the asylum. And if it is true, will it happen again with SOD if someone disagrees with his methods?

    No one is bigger than the club, but it appears some still think they are and that remains the major factor behind our league position.
     
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  13. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    Cider, I am sure with all your experience, you are correct, in my life I have been sacked twice because I told thick members of management I worked for to **** off because I thought they were inadequate, they had temporary victories and satisfaction, I know for a fact that I am having a better life than those two members of senior management enjoy, financially and life-style, I wish them no disrespect..
     
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  14. cidered abroad

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    One must assume that the "discussion" between LC and DMc took place after the latter had awarded/offered LC a contract for this season and it had been signed. If it was before, then DMc needs his head examining.
     
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  15. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    You are a wise Bristol City man... <ok>: <cheers>
     
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  16. WURZEL LOYAL

    WURZEL LOYAL New Member

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    I think Louis Carey this season has continued to do what he has learnt throughout his carear. He continues to defeat father time and does things right.

    I tend to look at the team collectively. If Louis Carey felt ther team was not organised/coached enough I believe him. City looked on numerous occasions disjointed.

    McInnes brought in enough to put out a new XI and still the same lack of shape appeared and players were stretched all over the pitch. They really did look un-organised, and the person who most should affect that was the manager. McInnes had the time, coaches and money to do better.
     
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  17. cidered abroad

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    Probably because I like you have seen all of this several times before and the conclusion is always inevitable.
     
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