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LJ out (or not)

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Prehab26, Nov 2, 2021.

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In or out ?

  1. In

    22 vote(s)
    14.4%
  2. Out

    97 vote(s)
    63.4%
  3. Still undecided

    34 vote(s)
    22.2%
  1. flandersmackem

    flandersmackem Well-Known Member

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    I've supported Johnson all season, even during the bad patch we had earlier. However , there comes a tipping point. At this stage of the season playing a rank average side and getting gubbed 6-0 may well be that point. He picks the team, he coaches them, he motivates them. The buck stops with him. I now have serious doubts, that was simply embarrassing for our club and those amazing supporters who went down there.
     
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  2. Mackem-Tiz

    Mackem-Tiz Well-Known Member

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    This is what worries me. We all know KLD will not sack him.
    I agree that we can't just keep on sacking managers but yesterday was a massive tipping point for me. Portsmouth, Rotherham, SW and now the mighty Bolton. Probably more to come.
    All this with a squad that is probably the best in L1.
     
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  3. TonyG

    TonyG Well-Known Member

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    Can’t understand why people feel they have to add the insult on the end of these protests.

    There will be a few short people on this forum that will look at that and just feel a wee bit sh!t.

    a simple Johnson Out is all that’s needed
     
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  4. Notaskyboy

    Notaskyboy Well-Known Member

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    How many times do we need to be out muscled in games before it’s addressed ? He’s had plenty of opportunity to address it now but hasn’t which suggests he doesn’t see it as a problem, blokes a clown.
     
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  5. Nathan Brazil

    Nathan Brazil Well-Known Member

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    Simple Johnson, Out

    Yeah, you're right.
     
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  6. TonyG

    TonyG Well-Known Member

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    I think it’s too late to ditch him, we won’t get a credible head coach who could do the business (any coach now will try to change to much in my opinion with the free card of “there wasn’t much time left in the season and this wasn’t my team” and promotion will be a certain write off.

    At least with sticking with Lee until the end it’s his team, his way of doing things so he will either get us promoted or fall on his sword.
     
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  7. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Well that’s two great choices you’ve put forward. Cheers!
     
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  8. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    It’s like this for me. He’s / the run/form’s not not bad enough to just sack outright but it’s clear he has flaws he can’t put right which will cost us automatic, so when they have the right replacement available they do it (after the window’s closed)
     
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  9. Prehab26

    Prehab26 Well-Known Member

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    It's clear to me he won't get us top 2. Very clear. A new manager might. Worth rolling the dice for me. Have seen LJ bottle the play offs last year so add that to the mix.
     
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  10. LD19SAFC

    LD19SAFC Well-Known Member

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    This season stinks of another play off failure. I reckon most sides in the mix would want to face us.
     
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  11. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    Small sample size, but the current poll results are revealing. Especially seeing this is very much the “calmer” of the two main forums. I won’t even dare enter RTG :D
     
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  12. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Well I’ve watched the news and he’s still here.
     
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  13. Prehab26

    Prehab26 Well-Known Member

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    Agree. I would be incredibly uncomfortable in a play off position.
     
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  14. Coastal Dolphins

    Coastal Dolphins Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn’t be so sure that KLD won’t act. There’s a difference between jumping in at the first bad run and taking your time and making a call at the right time. I’m glad he isn’t scattergun like the Watford ownership.
     
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  15. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    Whether for or against I wonder if this increases the efforts to get JD in sharpish to appease the baying mob
     
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  16. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    I still think that the fact the window closes tomorrow will have an impact on him not going.

    Even if the majority of transfer work is done above him, and even if our new system should allow for easy management changes - the perception of disarray that it sends is a consideration. Players won’t want to sign not knowing who their new manager is.
     
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  17. Ozzymac

    Ozzymac Well-Known Member

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    If that was the reason they signed him then it would be the wrong decision.
     
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  18. Coastal Dolphins

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    I tend to agree having given yesterday’s dust time to settle - driving back was weird, not gutted, just baffled really - Johnson’s literally got everything he could influence wrong yesterday from formation, tactics, selection, substitutions and their timing. He deserves a 0 out of 10 for yesterday as much as the worst performing player for me. A bad day and I think the signs are there will be others as he doesn’t seem to do self reflection and learning from mistakes - see us conceding goals from our own corners 2 games running from the Lincoln home game as an example.
     
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  19. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree but LJ needs to deflect away from himself now as I think the scales have tipped away from him. JD signing might just balance things for him again.
     
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  20. Oliver's Army

    Oliver's Army Well-Known Member

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    I'd imagine Speakman and KLD will have a list of potential replacement for LJ just like they have a list of multiple potential transfer targets for the same position on the pitch. KLD will also have a list of potential replacements for Speakman I'd have thought.
     
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