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Liverpool's successful past built on nous and cash

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by BCR, Apr 16, 2014.

  1. Ask DR, he's bound to have kept up...<whistle>
     
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    I wasn't arguing with you, I don't even know what was under debate. I was just pointing out that I thought you'd misread mito's comment. (I could be wrong).
     
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  3. Didn't mean for it to sound like I was arguing with you <laugh>

    If he means over its life span then that's ridiculous, it could only ever have been one team and no one is going to dominate twenty years or European football. Its not often a team does it domestically for twenty years.
     
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    Oh yes you did <laugh>
     
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    Its matchday! <party>
     
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  6. You don't believe that :p
     
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  7. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    Well, maybe I stretched the truth just a little bit :smile:
     
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    Oh no he didn't.......
     
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  9. Foredeckdave

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    Some buggers got to say "He's behind you" soon :p
     
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  10. Livtor

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    Nations have grabbed CL according to their national character.

    Italy, artistic, tactical, macchiavellists (Inter of the 60s, Milan and Juve of the nineties and 00s).
    Spain, technical, loud, gunning for splendor (Real of the 60s, Real of the late 90s, Barca of the late 00s).
    Germany, idealistic, powerful, organised, cool (Bayern of the 70s).
    Dutch, a hybrid of the latter (Ajax of the 70s).

    And England/Britain? Pragmatic, utilitarian, functionalists, fighting hearts. (Liverpool and Nottingham of the 70s)

    Perfection is harder to be aimed and arise from an English point of view. I'm yet to see a perfect English team. Perfection is a well-oiled silent machine, a matter of artistry imo. It is not labourious and relying on graft as much. Busby, Shankly, Paisley and Ferguson came close with their teams, yet (I can speak for the Manchester United teams) I could see the creaking cogs and the clenched teeth and never thought them perfect. Strong, not perfect.

    Since the Bossman ruling, boundaries have blurred but not quite. The manager has a great influence too, and he must be at the helm for a considerable time to change the natural default inclinations. Wenger plays Arsenal not like an English team, and he found a winning frequency for a short period only. Revolutionary Brendan is the British hope.
     
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    Does that mean a successful French team needs to be smelly and urinate on the side of the pitch?
     
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    No team from whatever country you care to chose is or ever was perfect- or anything close to it. Rodgers is one of the latest in a lone line of managers who have tried to reach perfection. All have failed and will continue to fail to reach that goal. However, we can admire their efforts and those of their players - no matter how briefly.
     
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    Only if their girlfriends can hold their hands whilst they're doing it! <laugh>
     
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  14. Interesting...
     
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  15. Livtor

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    What? You're old enough to remember Paisley's Europe conquering teams?
     
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    Ironically, you gave a typical Englishman utilitarian answer...
     
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  17. The way its worded makes it sound like you follow Man Utd. Some may perceive to as being a fan of.
     
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    No I presented the truth there was nothing utilitarian about it.
     
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  19. Livtor

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    Well, that's ******ed. Out of those, I'm obviously more familiar with the united teams of the 90s and 00s as is the majority of the board here. I defer to the old timers' opinions like saint, billy and Dave when it comes to the earlier decades.
     
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    Don't you agree that Barca of 2009 was pretty perfect? Or last year's Bayern? I'm just saying that as strong as the BPL is (and I do think that our league is the strongest by a distance), we find it harder to culminate it into a beautiful all-conquering team.
     
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