Match Day Thread Liverpool V Plymouth - FA Cup 3rd round

Ejaria started off really well and played TAA a few times. He's a tidy player but needs to add more substance.

Was disappointed with Ojo but he still needs to get more game time. Really special player.

Woodburn was a real plus point but he failed to build on a really good first half.

Stewart needs to realise his limitations - he hasn't got a range of passing nor can he shoot from distance. He's a runner and cover ground quickly but that's all - would seriously consider 10-12m if that ever comes.

 

oh look someone has told the kids what they didn't do

Ojo - More cutting edge needed
Sheyi Ojo admits Liverpool didn’t play quick enough against Plymouth - but he is confident they can get the job done in the replay.

Ojo says the Reds need to show more cutting edge in the final third when they make the trip to Devon next week.

Sheyi Ojo and David Fox battle for possession during The Emirates FA Cup Third Round match between Liverpool and Plymouth Argyle at Anfield (Photo by Michael Steele/Getty Images)
“We can play a bit quicker sometimes – the final cross or pass, or the final shot,” Ojo told Liverpoolfc.com after the final whistle.

“We had a few shots but they were getting blocked. A little bit more cutting edge in the final third and we’ll be fine.

You could see that they dropped off quite deep and allowed pressure onto themselves. It was for us to break them down.
“That’s something we can improve on as a team next time we play them, if they drop deeper. We had a lot of chances to get the goal, it just didn’t happen for us.”



wow you think huh.... at least i can say the coaches saw the same thing i saw which is nice. more tempo and be about your business. It was like some players don't get that

 

Its all about being about your business and forcing your own agenda. not playing the tempo plymouth dropping off set up which was frankly barely preseason tempo.

LFc players IMO allowed plymouth set the agenda and played slowly.

stewart 10mil good one thats about as realistic as 800k per week form china for alli.

 

Young lads did OK.. good control of the game but just a bit slow in the final third, move the ball quicker and we may have made a clear cut chance or two.
But fair play to Plymouth, they had a game plan and stuck to it, can be certain they'll make more of a game of it in the replay and that may play into our hands.
I'd go again with the same side and same options from the bench should the be needed.

 

plymouth were bloody awful, they could barely clear their lines. it was just very very weak from us and the player i actually want to be most critical of is not the younger ones but origi who basically spent the 90 mins running away from goal and fouling players.

I also found moerno's positioning odd.

can's now weekly I'm a left winger effort stupid.

Stweart did his best playing centrally and lucas mad an almost extra CM most of the time... but can got in moreno's way who then decided he was a CM also.... and woodburn was trying to find space these clowns took up.

Most of all origi was very very annoying.

 

Don't think Ejaria and Ojo will make it with us. Stewart isn't going to improve enough to be a serious contender, especially if we have to build a squad for Europe next year. Woodburn looks good but too early to tell. TAA looks a talent also.

The game didn't bother me one bit. 2nd string/youth got a good run out. Some of the senior boys got a bit of action and didn't push themselves too much. Same again for the away fixture, can't do any harm having some of the squad fly down for a good old bonding session, stay overnight in a hotel and have a pillow fight, Lala and Hendo can pop into the strippers or something. All good. Nothing to worry about.

 

Loved Klopp's post match interview, Such honesty, Polar opposite of that **** at utd

 

Here here.

 

Hear, hear.

 

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...erpool-talking-point-reds-youngsters-12424128

 

Can they stay in fawlty towers please.

moreno can play manuel.

 

I don't accept that Plymouth were poor at all. They set out to do a job and they did that job to perfection. In other words they succeeded very well. People who are slagging them off for their play don't get it and in that I include that bonehead MacManaman who doesn't seem to have a clue at all. No wonder he isn't in management.

Scenario:- Liverpool are in the semi final of the Champion's League playing Barcelona. It's 2 legs and the first one is away in Spain. Liverpool go there with a plan of not conceeding a goal doing everything they can to stiffle the game. They succeed and at 90 minutes it's 0 - 0. Back they come a week later to Anfield and despite Barcelona huffing and puffing Liverpool crack it and win 1 - 0. In the final and job done. Second scenario is that they go to the first leg and play gung ho. Lose 4 - 1 and second leg is an irrelevance. You lose but everyone thinks Liverpool are great for having a crack but no prizes for the Bridesmaid..

Now you tell me that you the supporters wouldn't be the happiest sandboys on the planet with the first option rather than the second. You tell me that the whole of the British football pundits and commentators would not be singing the praises of Liverpool and extolling the virtues of the tactics and applauding the manager as a Mesiah. The difference between the games is that Liverpool think the FA Cup is a distraction and inconvenience but the Champion's League is the Holy Grail. Plymouth on the other hand think the FA Cup is the Holy Grail because they will never get into the Champions League. Well not in my lifetime that is. They did exactly what Liverpool would have been praised for if they had done it in another competition. We need the cash and it is as simple as that. You were the home team and the onus was on you to win it first time. You failed and it is not that we did this or that wrong. I rest my case except to finish on the statement MacManaman is a penis..

 

My only criticism was that in the 2nd half I felt you could have got a winner if you wanted. We weren't that good and you could have given a bit more of a fight

 

And if ojo had actually have headed that early gaping goal not closed his eyes and missed It?

At times your clearances were a joke tbh though... so in no way to perfection but it did succeed. I would not slag off the tactic at all but the fact is there was a fair slice of lfc poorness and luck in there.

I do think the ref was a joke wanting to impress at a higher level or something and frankly he gave us frees for nothing.

I totally agree that the onus was on us and I felt there were players who are senior like origi who didn't try enough and that annoys me.

Hopefully the replay will be lfc trying and Plymouth defending in the same way but if u out get a refund who's not a clown I think you have enough pace there to hit on break

 

Whispers: I think they might have cos lucas looked ****ed and gomez was all over the shop. There were one or two moments there but in fiarness stewart did make a game saving challenge too.

I do think there is a case that our team moved at the pace set by plymouth and had plymouth played faster we could have played faster and scored 2 or 3. we really let plymouth set the tempo and even when plymouth were pretty useless in clearing their lines at times we fairs to move fast and get going.

I think we pressed properly maybe for 7/8 mins total. rest of the time it was SO easy get the ball back and so easy move it up the pitch that we just fell into it.

We need to smack certain senior players.

The comparison of moreno to milner was stark for example. Milner has without exception stayed wide and stretched teams this year. Moreno wandered in field and became a redundant CM.

As can thinking he was a no 10 or LW to that and it was a nightmare watching them fooster about trying to make simple passes really slowly.

 

If all the shots had gone in it would have been 24 - 4. If we had done anything different it probably would have been a cricket score. If's and buts don't exist in the real world. We cleared the ball as far as was necessary. The result was exactly what was required. Ergo perfection. We have to do it differently in the replay. The game requires a result so it isn't much point in not trying to score at all. Not saying we will go all out but I'd guess at some point we will be giving it some welly.

 

I don't disagree. Only thing that doesn't make your example valid is that we played the youth team. That was a great chance to have a bit of a go at them but you made it easy for the defence and inexperienced midfield to control the ball and do what they want.

If we went to play barca and they lined up with the under 23s I'd be disappointed we didn't have a bit of a go at them to test how good they are... might not get a better chance as return leg they may play the superstars.

Now exanple isn't quite the same as this is about money for you guys really more than a trophy so 0-0 is actually perfect result in that aspect, but if you'd had a bit more of a go, who knows you might have nicked one. You broke away couple times so if been a bit more adventurous who knows what could have happened.

 

Well if you have a keeper who can save pens you have a chance.

120mins then pens. you want to save a bit of juice but then again I have no idea what your pitch size or condition is or if its going to snow and be called off or played in poor conditions on the day.
I also find that refs in the FA cup when at a lower league sides home ground will ref it like a lower league game so lads like can and origi will be whining right off the bat when the get a few digs.

I must say the one thing i found you needed to do was make it just a tad hard to walk the ball up to the edge of your box. it was our own fault we didn't destroy you. especially when a 19 year old misses 3 sitters in front of your fans and origi forgot to stop fouling your player for one second to tap in.

 

Last year we played exeter away and drew 2-2. now that's exeter at home who had a go at a similar type of side. we won the replay 3-0 at home with a scratch side.

So... is there more credit to plymouth for defending or more critique of LFC youth this year for just being a bit slow and useless

our line up v exeter was

mingolet
Randall Ilori Enrique Smith
Allen Stewart Brannagan
Ibe Benteke Teixteria

Basically last year smith drove the show from LB and there was a bit more "senior experience" on show

 

Yes. You do realise that most on here agree with you, don't you? Think Klopp speaks for the overwhelming majority of us, as opposed to Macca. Again, well done.