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Match Day Thread Liverpool v Norwich

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by saintanton, Jan 24, 2024.

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  1. Zanjinho

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    Harvey was the Beckham; southern lad. Plus I needed a sixth <laugh>
     
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    The constant lazy repetition of this commentator's sound-bite annoys me, especially as imo it's the exact opposite - when he has a touch to get the ball under control his shooting is generally fine It's the ones that come at him quickly, the snap shots, that he struggles with. I think he needs a moment to set himself.
    It's as though "experts" can only trot out a series of footballing clichés. "Decision- making" was the other criticism - he's amongst the highest assist rates in the league, it's not as though he doesn't know when to shoot and when to pass.
    I wish commentators would just describe the action (like they used to do on the radio) and keep their opinions to themselves.
    My biggest dislike atm is Darren Bloody Fletcher, his chatter just grates on me for some reason.
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    one said it and now they all say it.

    it's like they are sheep.

    yeah he missed a few one on ones but most of his hits are hard fast shots and lies the one yesterday thst rattled the upright they are actually good strikes.

    nobody went oh luke Shaw is **** when he hit the post v Newport and Anthony tapped in.

    nunez produced a sensational effort from nowhere on a run and struck the post so he can't be thinking or he will miss but then he produces a great palced finish off Bradley's pass that required him to see the keeper and place the finish.

    the guy blasts a lot of efforts and a lot hit the keeper but they are volleys or half volleys from wider and some of the saves are very very good.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    just a point of order.

    nunez last goals.

    Norwich. quality finish past the keeper. side foot placement
    bournemouth. taps ball back across goal form deep cross, one touch finish and just gets to corner
    Bournemouth. quality one touch finish to corner off a jota pass.
    burnely. a lovely placed pass to the bottom of the net from the D

    Now obviously theres some fired at the keeper and some missed as we go through all the games form boxing day to today a month later but we have had 3 league games and 2 fa cup and 2 League cup games in the period.

    He provided 2 assists in a half hour v fulham and another assist v newcastle so 7 games and 3 assists and 4 goals

    The goals he scored were all placed where he wanted to finish so the pundit critique of don't give him time to think is utter rot.



    only need look at that first goal v Burnley to see he's calling for the pass after getting up form a foul (not given) and he's been very deliberate in the finish.
     
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    It's hilarious, let them carry on - it's really not bothering him.
     
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    More good goals. We're finding lots of different ways to score. Great performances from the two youngsters and both getting assists to top those performances off, real confidence boosters.

    I think that Nunez is better when he doesn't have time to think. I said as much after his goal in the last game. He's an instinctive player. He doesn't appear to have that footballing intelligence which is looking one move ahead, at least not yet anyway. Reading back on the latest comments it looks like that's what was being said in commentary and I'm horrified to think that I agree with anything being said by the lazy pundits. I always watch with the sound off unless something contentious happens, then I put the sound up to see what's going on so I have no idea for most of the game what's being said. As always just my opinion.
     
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    I'm quite happy for them to spout this ****e as hopefully opponents may believe it to be true
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    the evidence of the goals he is scoring doesn't seem to stack up one jot with that.

    it'd be like saying jota just blasts them having scored at the near post v Bournemouth and blasted in v Norwich. it'd completely miss the context of seeing where thr chance is and putting the hots where thry needed to go.

    nunez has been snatching at some earlier in the season but he's got a couple and just settled in his own mind. that's all.

    it's too easy say he's a mad man and agent of chaos imo. he works very very hard. he wouldn't be in a klop side if he didn't do the right things in the system. there's plenty of intelligence there.
     
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    have to disagree on this . It may have been true when he arrived but his game awareness has come on no end best illustrated in his assists and hockey assists .
     
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    The two goals in the comeback at St. James' Park as well. Ball under control, precise finish.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Hopefully he will ram it down all their throats by may. :)
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    he doesn't create chaos. He presses. this is another bit of carragher waffle. he scares the pants off defenders because he's strong, quick and aggressive but he is doing it in accordance with the plan to press up. He isn't haring about where nobody knows where to find him.

    again. nobody ever called mane an agent of chaos when he was parked at a quasi 10 half of the time. he was where klopp wanted him .Same for diaz now moving about, nobody is throwing shade at the lad.

    I'll be clear, Nunez has missed some heinously.

    Absolutely terrible misses.

    I've said so many times that its not good enough but this stuff in the media is rot and totally misses the reality of football. theres a lot of pressure, a lot about confidence and a lot of desire to do well. Add all that up and a guy can snatch at stuff.

    Again I think you do him a great disservice talking about no time to think when in fact his speed of thought is on display. no time to think lashes a foot at a ball. Yesterday he has read the scene and picks his spot with side foot. You can all that instinct or muscle memory or whatever else but its not unthinking

    The thing is the amount of chances we've all seen salah miss and he's never been said to be better if he doesn't think. he gets called greedy despite stellar assist levels year on year. these narratives are driven by others outside the club and fan base and should IMO be resisted.
     
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    Apologies for derailing the thread.
     
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    I have pointed at these very goals as examples of the opposite. Not getting at you, JB, just expressing a different opinion - it's why we're here isn't it?
    I don't think he's better when he has no time think, those goals and other similar ones showed to me that he's better when he has that time. We're only talking about a second or two here, but it's enough for him to get the ball under control, set his body, and see the scene in front of him. When he hasn't the time to assess the situation is when he's more likely to miss - like when it comes at him too quickly in a tight space and he hasn't time to sort himself out. Others are better at that, but with a direct line coming down on goal he's as good as anyone.
     
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    Apologies for derailing the thread.
     
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    Apologies for derailing the thread.
     
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