Park would never ever be playing for any of the top teams in the other top leagues. Barca Real Inter and Milan wouldn't touch him. I think it proves the point, he is half decent, half, the other half is shirt sales in Asia. Do you think he is good enough to be at United? Never said he was useless, just pointing out why United signed him Parkj has brought United more financial assitance than his football ever will
There is another reason.Park is a dog eater and they wanted to get rid of all the dogs around the swamp.However Posh Spice still hangs around so does Gary Nevilles mum Tracey.
Yes I believe Park is good enough as a squad player at Utd. He played at PSV before coming to OT and did well. He has energy, bravery, tenacity, hunger and loyalty. He's certainly no world beater I grant you but then again he's certainly no Maxi.
@Swarbs, I aint KPR so I don't know how you managed to counter my point with one of his. Straws you clutching as you actually got my point I know you did Please point out where I said such a thing as we need 4 players and we're good to go? I also do believe if you buy the "Right" player it takes less time for them to gel as in a player that plays a specific role, Like carroll, everyone knows where he will be, he just has to learn where they will be for the flick ons. Half a job done where as a midfielder has a more difficult job gelling or a defender. Specialists like carroll and Hernandez take less time in general for those reasons. If they can deliver is another matter
Bayern were interested in him in 2010 and there was rumoured interest from Milan in 2009. And he was MOTM against Barca in the 2008 semi final. I agree he wouldn't be a major target for any of the top clubs, particularly not in Spain. His playing style doesn't suit the Spanish game at all. But he's definitely good enough for United - his performances in big CL and PL games have proved that. In fact, I think he's exactly the type of player that Arsenal and Chelsea have missed this season - solid, unspectacular but rarely has a bad game and often pops up with crucial contributions in big games that win us points when the rest of the team may be struggling.
Bringbackfootee. Swarbs made a point without thinking it out first.He forgot about something obvious like training.I made the point that Kenny will finish his transfer business before pre-season starts.Thus giving the new players time to gel.Okay he does need 5 new players,but 3 of them will go straight into the team.It is easier for say full-backs and wingers to gel immediately as these are specialist positions.Look at John Flanagan last night.He did well because he had Jamie Carragher talking him through.Also when you have a ''talker and an organiser'' its easier for players to fit into a system.
I completely agree with your point. You can't just buy five top players and expect to build a world class team. For reference, see Chelsea and Man City I was just using your quote to have a cheeky pop at KPR and his "Kenny will bed our players in immediately" argument. Childish, but I couldn't resist! Suarez and Carroll seemed to have settled well but, like you've noted, it's much easier for a striker to bed in than a defender or midfielder. Particularly when your striker either has a well defined role like Carroll, or effectively has something of a free role with the rest of the team adapting to him like Suarez. It also helps that Liverpool sold their previous main striker in January as well, so Suarez and Carroll don't have to worry about the team already being built around a talisman.
Swarbs read my previous comment. I'll use an example that you may understand.Antonio Valencia a winger bedded into the United team almost immediately.I never said put five new players in at the same time.I said introduce five new players into the squad.As I said in my previous post,about putting 3 in,two wingers and a full-back in.I also said that having an organiser like Jamie Carragher that never shuts up also helps full-backs to bed in.Look what he did with John Flanagan last night,He spent the whole game talking him through.
You could ''Park'' him outside the stadium and let him eat dogs.If he eats Evertonian females all the better.As most of them are dogs.
Valencia was one player, signed in May so he had the entirety of pre season to bed in. He also fit with our existing system But you're talking about introducing up to five new players, and adding wingers to a team that hasn't really played with two out wingers since Torres joined. So not only do the new players have to bed in, but the team has to adapt to them too. And if you add a new playmaker to the mix you are effectively changing everything about how the team plays. That's not something that will be sorted out in pre season, it's something that may take an entire year to get enough understanding in the team and may never fully come together. Look at Veron, Aquilani, Medina, Rebrov, Cheyrou, Brolin, Marlet and Shevchenko. All highly rated, all had full pre seasons, all failed to adapt to the style of the club. The more new players you add, the more chance you will find out that some of them can't play well together and no training can cure it.
The players you mentioned aren't deep lying player makers ie Alonso,Gourcuff,Xavi.They are all CAM's it is harder for CAM's to adapt as they have to gain an understanding with the forwards.Its easier for a deep lying play maker to adapt as all they have to do is find an outlet.It makes it easier for wingers to adapt when there is a deep lying playmaker in the side.Thats all Xabi Alonso did when he was with Liverpool he just slowed down the tempo when it needed to be slowed down.There is a difference between dictating and gaining an understanding with the forwards,its easier to dictate.
Veron was as much of a deep lying playmaker as Xavi, and way more so that Gourcuff. France may use Gourcuff as a DLP but that's not his best position. And Diego isn't a deep lying playmaker either - he's definitely a CAM. Veron was the classic example of a deep lying playmaker failing to adapt to wingers - he kept trying to slow the play down for United when we were looking for quick balls to the wingers to get them behind the full backs. That's one of the reason's Scholes has been so successful for us for so long - he reads the game and understands when to slow it down and when to speed it up based on the players we have. So it's not always easy for a DLP to adapt, and I can't think of many that have truly thrived in a team that also uses pacy wingers and crosses to a big striker.
Swarbs you mentioned players that didn't adapt,what about the ones that did ie Alonso.I think it depends on the the player more than the system. Damien Comolli will do his research thoroughly to ensure that Liverpool sign the right player,moreso than the most expensive player.Someone mentioned Banega and I reckon they may be onto something as he's Alonsoesque in the way he plays.
I think it's a combination of the two - the player needs to be able to adapt to the system, but the system needs to be set up to support them. Alonso did very well, but that's partly cos Benitez built his team around him - we saw that when Alonso left without being replaced. And Liverpool played most of their football according to the tempo he set - other players had to adapt to him in order to succeed. And he was a pretty unique player - no other deep lying playmaker has done as well as he did in the PL. Banega looks good, but it's a long way from looking good to being outstanding and able to dictate play in the PL.
I never said that Everton would put 5 players in at the same time either. I'l ask you again, what makes you so different to them?
