Liverpool Sell thier Souls - Commerical Deal discussion thread

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Let me rephrase - all this talk about being to compete with the biggest clubs and go for the best players is nonsense.

Not doubting that FSG have done good things for this club but there will always be a limit to our success unfortunately. As I say, it may not all be down to FSG - I think Klopp and Pep need to take responsibility for our current predicament.

oh absolutely. We cannot compete with oil doper money but won't also compete with the other top 4. We pay a lot of wages across a lot of players but spread it around a lot.

You are right there is a hard ceiling above which we are not going to go but you are also right that the coaching staff do seem to lack the ruthlessness that they initially applied to get rid of shako, benteke, balotelli etc.

I don't know if we made do with milner or genuinely wanted to keep kieta or ox. I just don't know but they did shovel cash at henderson as you said and have sports science telling them about fabinho and thiago.

the teams tactics are down to klopp. the players who get new contracts are down to klopp (has to be) where i draw my distinction is where a player is not sold like phillips or ox and we cannot just have them out the door and get in the player needed. That IMO is a constraint they may be working under.

We have loads and loads of players but the balance has gone and that shows in the gaps we are leaving everywhere. regaining the balance is down to klopp with what he has now. But they need to be ruthless now. Keita ox and milner are gone. Fabinho looks shot to me and thiago could never run. henderson legs are gone.

This means a midfield transplant is required when we should have got one in last summer but didn't due to the lots of warm bodies as i pointed out at the time.
 
So basically all this stuff about having record revenues and huge commercial deals is just nonsense.

Can't wait to see New Training Ground as our number 7, or New Sponsorship Deal as the Bobby replacement.

I'm all for investing in the infrastructure but the playing squad is what will pay it off. Success on the pitch = success off the pitch.

We could spend £1b on every position and win every single trophy every year and you'd still grumble about something [HASHTAG]#neversatisfied[/HASHTAG]
 
We could spend £1b on every position and win every single trophy every year and you'd still grumble about something [HASHTAG]#neversatisfied[/HASHTAG]

Let's win every trophy each year and then ask me again ...

1 PL and 1 CL is incredible given where we were when Klopp first took over but this is a world class squad and the argument is should they have won more together? Have we wasted the prime years of our world class players by not being aggressive enough in the market?
 
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Let's win every trophy each year and then ask me again ...

1 PL and 1 CL is incredible given where we were when Klopp first took over but this is a world class squad and the argument is should they have won more together? Have we wasted the prime years of our world class players by not being aggressive enough in the market?

We wouldn't have seen as much of those players had out not been for the pandemic, they'd have been sold for big profits and then we'd have seen more investment in the team.
 
We wouldn't have seen as much of those players had out not been for the pandemic, they'd have been sold for big profits and then we'd have seen more investment in the team.

You reckon? I think we would have continued to keep them, as evidenced by some of the contracts we have been dishing out recently.
 
This middle of the season World Cup is turning out to be a great idea for the players who are going hell for leather every week and didn't have much of a summer break.

Jota joins the list of players not going to the world cup
 
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This middle of the season World Cup is turning out to be a great idea for the players who are going hell for leather every week and didn't have much of a summer break.

Jota joins the list of players not going to the world cup

Maybe. Trouble is, most of our players are either going to said world cup, injured or will be running their bollocks off in training <laugh>