Yet again responsible for trouble and blackening the name of English football fans across the world. Time for a lengthy ban from European competition in my opinion.
Off Topic Liverpool fans!
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Never going to happen. How could the media get through a season without mentioning special European night Anfield atmosphere?
Agree. All we hear is Hillsborough, yet they have been involved in 4 major incidents since 1985, two of which caused the deaths of 134 innocent people and two which could have seriously injured or killed multi million pound sportsmen. I don't want to stir up anger and hurt but it is time people took a long hard look and realised they are not the super fans they are made out to be.
Only a couple of grounds i've been too where i've felt a genuine feeling of unease about been beaten up....Spurs and Liverpool. Horrible places to go to
Been many times to Liverpool, first trip to watch the lads was when we beat them to stay up, big Bob Paisley was the gaffer circa early 80s. We had thousands down that day, ram packed in the anfield road end. I recall the big fire hoses at the back of the stand were switched on and the scousers in the paddock were given their annual bath courtesy of the lads fans.
It's a long story, my stepdaughter used to go with a Greek lad who was at uni, liverpool played olympicos at home, got tickets as that was his team, hired a spanking new Honda accord, told wor lass to park in a secured car park, she wouldn't have it and found a space pretty close to the ground in an adjacent street, came back after match, as I expected the scallies had put out the window and whipped the stereo, never trust a woman or a scouser. Lol.
It's a long story, my stepdaughter used to go with a Greek lad who was at uni, liverpool played olympicos at home, got tickets as that was his team, hired a spanking new Honda accord, told wor lass to park in a secured car park, she wouldn't have it and found a space pretty close to the ground in an adjacent street, came back after match, as I expected the scallies had put out the window and whipped the stereo, never trust a woman or a scouser. Lol.
They are not fans, a minority spoiling it for the majority
SKY report . . . .
Real Madrid's team bus was targeted outside Anfield last night prior to their Champions League quarter-final second-leg tie against Liverpool.
Stewards could be seen scraping away the broken glass from Real Madrid's bus ahead of the game at Anfield where around 400 people had congregated outside the ground prior to the match. Liverpool and Merseyside Police have condemned the behaviour of those involved
Wednesday 14th April, 2021 21:08, UK
Wasn’t Man City’s coach bricked and a flare thrown into their coach a few seasons ago.
What are the spineless FA and UEFA going to do about it, and if you had the power what would you do about it?
Real Madrid's team bus was targeted outside Anfield last night prior to their Champions League quarter-final second-leg tie against Liverpool.
Stewards could be seen scraping away the broken glass from Real Madrid's bus ahead of the game at Anfield where around 400 people had congregated outside the ground prior to the match. Liverpool and Merseyside Police have condemned the behaviour of those involved
Wednesday 14th April, 2021 21:08, UK
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Wasn’t Man City’s coach bricked and a flare thrown into their coach a few seasons ago.
What are the spineless FA and UEFA going to do about it, and if you had the power what would you do about it?
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I imagine the FA will duck out saying it’s a EUFA matter
Bet they’re at every game! Horrible set of fans who feel entitled because of what happened at hills borough. 3 minutes after the news of thus broke the “jft96” brigade were out in force. As if to say “it’s not our fault, we had fans killed years ago!!”
This is not me having a go about Hillsborough at all, just that some seem to think all should be forgiven because of it!
it seems like it's always a victim status for them,but then god comes along and makes their beachball count for a change
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I find it difficult to ever have sympathy for them if things that happened at the European final in Turkey are true. The stadium was not fit for purpose and tickets were not allocated to seats - a ticket got you through the turnstile , to then sit where you wanted. Having experience of what happens when people crush in too small a space, non ticket holders still massed to the turnstiles to attempt to jump in and overpopulate the space inside. A ten year old lad with his dad got to the ground, had his ticket in his hand. only to have it snatched off him.
If these reports are not true then I apologise, but I remember a lot of people having heard the same.
If these reports are not true then I apologise, but I remember a lot of people having heard the same.
It's hardly a surprise.
Going back a very long way, when I would go to away matches, that was a place I didn't like going to.
It's okay to make a ground hostile to a visiting team, although positive and raucous encouragement of your own side is much more effective. The idea of violently ambushing a team bus is disgraceful and unforgiveable, although of course it will be forgiven. The problem here is that you almost knew it might happen.
" When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." Maya Angelou.
Going back a very long way, when I would go to away matches, that was a place I didn't like going to.
It's okay to make a ground hostile to a visiting team, although positive and raucous encouragement of your own side is much more effective. The idea of violently ambushing a team bus is disgraceful and unforgiveable, although of course it will be forgiven. The problem here is that you almost knew it might happen.
" When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." Maya Angelou.
I would say that any football clubs who played in the Heysel final would have been involved in a fatal disaster.
A chainlink fence was all that separated one team's fans from what should have been neutrals, but touts had sold on the tickets to Juve fans. Yet, despite all the Juve flags, etc, local police did nothing to increase manning down that fence line. The Police radios weren't able to contact the police reserves held outside the stadium to ask for reinforcements, but they had over an hour to ask for more to be sent in.
I'm not absolving the few dozen troublemakers but, FFS, at the time Liverpool fans didn't even have a bad reputation in europe.
Watch this documentary to see all the things that went wrong at Heysel. If the stadium hadn't have been dilapidated then there would have been injured fans, yes, but no deaths.
None of this justifies one set of fans attacking another.
I didn't say it did, in fact I specifically said I didn't absolve the troublemakers.
Back then EVERY club's fans had its troublemakers. People who only went to away games to fight. That is what football hooliganism was like - but there weren't killings at games.
If Hillsborough had been in as poor a state as Heysel Stadium then there wouldn't have been as many deaths there, simply because the walls of the Leppings Lane Pens would have given way.
Have you watched the documentary I posted? There was no trouble on the streets before the game nor in any other part of the stadium before the tragedy. Just in that one part where Liverpool and Juve fans were on opposite sides of a chainlink fence.
What do we say when away fans pelt home fans at the Stadium of Light? ****house away fans, but the club shouldn't have the away fans in such a position where they can cause trouble.
Crowd control is the responsibility of the stadium owner, the match organisers. It suited UEFA, Brussels and Belgian authorities to have British fans carry the entire blame for the Heysel disaster.
Britain sent a senior crowd safety officer from London Fire Brigade over to inspect and report on the disaster's causes. Despite talking to lots of sports reporters to find out what they would do to solve the hooliganism problem, Maggie Thatcher never even spoke to that officer on the phone, let alone have a meeting with him. So I guess it suited her too to be able to blame English fans from a labour metropolis.