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Little Ollie Has Blown His Bolt

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  1. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Nah, nothing..you're like a 2nd hand durex;
     
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  2. France midfielder Paul Pogba, 26, has told his Manchester United team-mates he still wants to leave the club in the summer.
    (Manchester Evening News)

    Those lads must be absolutely thrilled for him, yeah!
     
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  3. Manchester United will prioritise a move for Aston Villa midfielder Jack Grealish, 24, in the summer with fellow Englishman James Maddison, 23, moving closer to signing a new deal with Leicester City.
    (Mirror)

    Yeah, that's right...

    Steal the best players from other clubs instead of producing your own and developing them.

    Nothing changes.
     
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  4. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    <doh>
     
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  5. Sharpe*

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    I'm quite pleased with the job he's doing at United.

    Slowly ensuring United fall further behind!

    On a serious note they've either got to back him with serious investment or get someone else in.
     
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  6. Serious question...

    Would you trust Ollie with your next big transfer budget?

    With the unrest among fans becoming evermore vocal, my feeling is that the Glazers will try to appease them with a massive splurge, in the Summer.
     
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  7. Sharpe*

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    I wouldn't.

    Half the problem is United have backed themselves into a corner.

    They've brought in managers with proper CV's and they've not won the league so have been fired.

    Having tried successful managers they've now gone for a company man and former player with the hope he'll develop into a great manager.

    Trouble is there is little evidence to suggest he'll be the man to get them back so they're backing an unknown whilst slipping further behind and hoping things will get better.

    They're under pressure not to keep firing managers which hasn't worked out plus the fact he's a former player means they're putting up with more poor results than they would a non associated manager.

    They're in a proper tricky situation and its as a result of their own chopping and changing since Fergie.

    They're significantly worse than what they were under Van Gaal and Moyes.

    I bet they'd love to go back to Van Gaal and the squad he had and give him more time.

    They're in trouble atm and unless they sort it out quick they'll fall further behind.
     
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  8. Do you accept that Mourinho did what he to do in order to achieve what he did with what he had?
     
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  9. Odion Ighalo: Manchester United striker took pay cut to make loan deal happen!
    (BBC Football article)

    What an idiot!
     
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  10. Sharpe*

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    Well yes you could say so.

    He played in a way that did end up in trophies.

    He did stink the place out with his attitude though but that could have been down to the fact he'd asked for more money and didn't get it.

    So he did what he had to do to get results, yes.

    I personally thought he was a poor fit at United.

    Not totally convinced at Spurs either - its very different from the entertaining football that I've associated Spurs with over the past 10 years or so.

    But if he's there long enough and backed then he could do something.

    I don't see him being backed massively though so I don't really know where the Spurs-Jose combination is heading.

    He's entertaining though I'll add that!
     
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  11. I agree with your first statement, but not the second.

    A lot of Spurs fans would agree with you, but not me.

    Levy is not stupid. He would have known exactly what Mourinho is all about before employing him. Equally, Mourinho is very clear with what he wants in order to achieve his goals, and I have absolutely no doubts that he will have expressed this to Levy, during their contract negotiations.

    My view has always been that our board will spend the money if it believes success will be achieved and that the right manager is in place m

    The fact that the board didn't spend in Poch's last two seasons tells me that it didn't have enough faith in him.

    I genuinely believe that Mourinho is exactly the type of manager that we need, if we are to take our next step. And that next step is a massive one for the club. Spurs fans who continue to slate Mourinho are clueless and an embarrassment to the club.

    He won't have Spurs playing like he has United playing, because (a) he has a better midfield with us, and (b) he will have learned valuable lessons at United.

    Already, I can see exactly what it is he is trying to do at Spurs, and I can see exactly the types of players he wants at the club. I think Levy will get them for him, and I believe that Mourinho, if given the time, will have us playing like Chelsea, when he first took over the reins at that club.
     
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  12. CFC: Champs £launderx17

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    [QUOTE="

    I genuinely believe that Mourinho is exactly the type of manager that we need, if we are to take our next step. And that next step is a massive one for the club. Spurs fans who continue to slate Mourinho are clueless and an embarrassment to the club.

    He won't have Spurs playing like he has United playing, because (a) he has a better midfield with us, and (b) he will have learned valuable lessons at United.

    Already, I can see exactly what it is he is trying to do at Spurs, and I can see exactly the types of players he wants at the club. I think Levy will get them for him, and I believe that Mourinho, if given the time, will have us playing like Chelsea, when he first took over the reins at that club.[/QUOTE]

    1. Deluded
    2. Counterattacking football in a 4 3 3 with wingers? JM hasn't played this way since 2005
     
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  13. Bodinki

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    Nah I think its more likely Levy will have just fed Jose a bunch of horse **** and promised him the world and get him to sign, then will just renege and tell him to shut the **** up when Jose requests backing, as is Levy's MO.
     
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  14. Bodinki

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    Signing a big name in football like Jose brings attention to your club.
    He is certainly the most famous manager ever to manage Spurs, celebrity wise. People like my wife know his name even when she is not remotely interested in football.
    Doesn't matter to Levy what happens after that. As long as Jose's appointment brings global attention to the club and boosts merchandise sales and interest in Tottenham.
     
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  15. Sharpe*

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    Well time will tell.

    I'm still not convinced on your sentiment with Levy.

    I think he just looks at the balance sheet. Can we afford the player? Will we get a return on that investment?

    I don't think success on the field is paramount for Levy - success for him is turnover and subsequent profit.

    We saw this with his decision to invest in a stadium rather than in a squad which was a small step from winning the league.

    I said at the time investment in the stadium would come at the expense of the league and that Poch and his team would fall by the wayside.

    That is exactly what has happened.

    It will be interesting to see if Levy backs Jose, because if he doesn't and Jose doesn't bring success with what he has, then the fans and media will jump straight on it and before you know Jose will go.
     
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  16. 1. Deluded
    2. Counterattacking football in a 4 3 3 with wingers? JM hasn't played this way since 2005[/QUOTE]



    Sort those quotes out ffs!
     
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  17. CFC: Champs £launderx17

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    I was actually thinking how little publicity Jose gets at a club like Spurs compared to when he managed previous bigger sides
     
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  18. Bodinki

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    Bet he gets more publicity than Ramos, Sherwood, Jol, Pochettino etc.
     
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  19. CFC: Champs £launderx17

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    meant: I was actually thinking how little publicity Jose gets at a club like Spurs compared to when he managed previous bigger sides
     
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  20. Bodinki

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    Well yeah, clubs like Chelsea, Inter, Man Utd and Real Madrid are going to get more coverage than the Spuds, obviously.
     
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