Liebherr's Corner - The Off-Topic Chat Thread

I can see why people wouldn't like Placebo. I loved their 1996 self titled album, but hated every album after that.

 

Green Day formed in the 90's.

 

And what's you favourite Green Day song? Mine's gotta be Whatsername

 

I know...

 

probably "why do you want him". I doubt you'd like it, it's from the early 90s.

 

I must confess, I've only heard the album American Idiot all the way through, but I do like the song Macy's Day Parade.

 

Excellent song.

The album American Idiot got me into them.

Now have every single album by them.

Tend to like different songs at different times, currently 'Holiday' given that I am on holiday!

 

In the mid 80's I hated most of what got into the charts, Wham, Duran Duran and similar, about 10 years later looking back they never seemed half as bad.
Im no Steps fan but cheese has its place in music, how else would DJs get people up.

 

Leftism was released in 1995 and is one of the greatest, most influential albums of the last fifty years (well, ever really). It may have not been a great era for chart pop as a whole (though again, debatable) but I certainly don't think it any worse than now. It did however spawn some truly great indie/grunge/rock/dance albums.

 

I used to like Green Day when I was 12. I liked When I Come Around. Now about 10 years on I'd be pretty okay if I never heard them again.

Get off not606 then?

 

American Idiot was a terrible album.

 

Music, much like any art form, has an awful lot to do with context as well. If you look at the Mona Lisa now, you could perhaps think to yourself "what's all the fuss about", but learn a little about the history and context and it begins to make an awful lot more sense.

Look at when Hendrix dropped into the music scene - nobody had heard anything like that before. A lesser example, but in the early 80s there was a lot of pretty insipid chart music about, and then She Sells Sanctuary was released by The Cult which shifted things - the album it came from hugely influenced the later indie and BritPop movements. Likewise Nirvana (whatever you may think of them) in the 90s, and on the dance side (and production side as well) Leftfield. There's countless examples of contextual game changers, that may not seem all that great now, but it's worth spending a little time browsing through the history of these things - it actually makes the final product an awful lot more interesting and enjoyable.

 

That's how I feel about The Beatles. Their music doesn't really sound worthy of being so highly renowned to me, but then you look at what came before them and realise just how original they were. In the context of all the other music I've heard they sound quite unimpressive to me, but they came before all that.

 

Yeah I'm the same. Personally I don't like them, I don't ever choose to listen to them etc but I highly respect how incredibly influential they are.

 

What a great post. I have always thought exactly the same, which is why I get even more annoyed by the terrible clingers-on than most. The fact that Ellie Goulding et al get so much exposure, when there are so many amazing bands and acts out there is a travesty, truly. Their music is mindless money-driven nonsense and for some keeps getting played because of advertising etc.

I would bet good money that the Radio 1 DJ's wouldn't play 90% of the stuff they do given a choice.

 

Aww Chris Martin and Gwyneth Paltrow are splitting up. Who will get custody of the apple?

 

You'd be surprised actually. The 1 guys get an awful lot more say than, for instance, the guys over at 2. At 2 they have a 'free play' pile of things they can play if they like, but it's mainly dominated by the playlist, and completely driven by the say-so of their producers. Basically (whilst being slightly careful what I say) at 2, the playlist is pretty well dominated by one specific producer, who has a slightly odd obsession with Englebert Humperdinck and Status Quo, hence why you'll see all their singles go straight onto the A List. Them and Deacon Blue. It's not especially helpful for any new, MoR bands that are trying to break into the mainstream, but there we go.

There's a little more flex for the DJs over at 1 - they at least have a say on what gets played and doesn't. As someone mentioned previously though, the best bet for discovering interesting new music, whilst listening to good older music, is 6 Music by a country (and not Western) mile.

 

Hmm...I wonder what Coldplay's new song "Another's Arms" is about?.......

 

It's virtually impossible to get on the Radio 2 playlist unless you are already established. I have a friend who has had a record at no. 11 in the charts, and which was played by people like Johnnie Walker a lot but didn't get on the playlist. For her next recording, the sum of £25,000 was handed over to an agent in order to break the song into the playlist, but to no avail, so the money was straight down the Swanee. And, believe me, this lady is good. A local music journalist once described her voice as being "what Madonna would sound like if Madonna could sing".

But I agree with you about 6 Music, which is certainly the best radio station in this country, if not the known universe.

 

Radio 1 has Nick Grimshaw. It kind of tells you how **** it is.