LFC: The Klan uncut

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Clearly the thread is about a Liverpool documentary, i see you tried to change the subject to Manchester United which we all know you like to talk about.

I think you have confused us United fans because a Chelsea has put this thread up and majority of other fans have commented in a negative way about your club and how they will be portrayed in the documentary yet, you still bother to refer to Manchester United.

I feel your wumming skills are decent but Matth could teach you a few things

 

Deep down inside herself BBT loves Man Utd. There has been a thread about this documentary, (that BBT says she is looking forward to so much) for weeks now. BBT seems to have decided, not to bother writing about her admiration for Lfc in making the documentary, on that thread. If she had already posted on the Lfc thread it would give her comments here some credence, the fact she hasn`t suggests to me she is telling lies about looking forward to it and also the admiration for Lfc in making it.
All we are left with then is BBT spouting her usual anti-Utd stuff and coming across as a rather weak wum.

 

So this BBT warrior, he's ANOTHER Liverpool fan from Somerset then? Let me guess, he's in a similar age bracket to Barrie Mercury, a diehard Liverpool fan since they were winning European Cups?

That bandwagon really did derail spectacularly.

As for the documentary, I've only seen the clip of Rodgers having a go at future City reserve player Sterling but it's bound to be a PR disaster. FSG's management of the club has been comically bad to date from appointing a dinosaur to manage the team, sanctioning hugely expensive signings for mediocre players, going into hiding when Suarez was found guilty of being a racist, and now appointing a man who it is widely accepted was the benefactor of Martinez's endeavours at Swansea. The documentary was no doubt designed to boost Liverpool's commercial appeal around the world but will almost certainly leave the existing fans cringing with embarrassment, again.

 

So you have to comment on every thread that mentions the subject you want to post about before you can comment on a new thread about said subject?

Okay mate!

Next time a new article appears about, say...an injury to a United player, are you saying that I have to trawl through the archives to find articles about United injuries, comment on those articles and then I can add my new comments on the new thread and they will then have more credence?

No wonder this board has so few new articles on it, people are too busy commenting on all the old articles in order to appear credible that they haven't got the time to write anything new!

 

The first bolded bit could well be true, I suppose it depends on how you view it. We have already had a few examples of how different people's view is distorted with this documentary. I read somewhere on here that the recording of Sterling's telling off was an embarrassment to the club and stuff like that shouldn't be shown. Why not? It is a behind the scenes look at life at the club, what is wrong with showing stuff like that?

I will wait to see it before I make any judgements as to how it reflects on Liverpool, you never know it may be a good program. You have obviously already made your mind up that it is going to be a disaster, fair enough...

Oh, and the second bolded bit is factually incorrect!

 

I'm sure being ridiculed in front of the cameras has really inspired Sterling's commitment to Liverpool and his new manager. As you said, it's "behind the scenes" stuff which is being made public so it's no longer behind the scenes! It's just another desperate cry for attention from the "lookatme" club of English football. At some point FSG will realise that the general football public no longer consider Liverpool to be one of the main attractions.

 

^^^

I cannot wait to enjoy seeing that incompetent useless KKK being booted out of Anfield and humiliated by people who once thought he was a hero. Hero to Zero...

 

Considering the fact that he seems to be a favourite of Rodgers' then you could suggest that it has actually made Sterling more committed, maybe it gave him the required motivation to push for a first team place, one which he appears to now have!

It could also serve as a reminder to the other youngsters that you don't mess about, who knows!

I don't understand your 'no longer behind the scenes' comment...it is stuff that is not normally seen, hence the 'behind the scenes' aspect, once it is aired it is still 'behind the scenes' stuff. If you watch a DVD and it has extras such as a 'behind the scenes' look at the making of the movie, do you watch this bit and then think, well that's no longer 'behind the scenes' now that I have seen it? It is just a term used to describe stuff not normally seen, nothing to get worried about!

I disagree with the 'cry for attention', can you expand on this theory please? I would imagine the idea was formed as a way of raising awareness of the club in the states initially, with the possibility of raising the club's commercial profile via potential sponsors etc...those type of documentaries have a very large audience there, the 'hard knocks' and 24/7 stuff is well made and pretty good viewing. So if that is a cry for attention then I suppose all clubs do it in one way or another when they are trying to attract sponsors, it's just that Liverpool have made a tv program in order to do it, not a bad idea and a potentially very lucrative one imo!

 

Didn't Dalglish say he was treated with dignity when he was sacked? Also, your use of 'KKK' is childish and renders anything potentially useful that you have to say as irrelevant...in my opinion!

 

Cry for attention - Liverpool are always crying for attention, whether it be making a documentary, saying there's a conspiracy against their club for one reason or another, demanding to be recognised as a big club, insisting that Gerrard should get an MBE or Dalglish a knighthood etc. It never ends.

Behind the scenes - dreadful comparison of a film and a football club unless you're referring to behind the scenes footage of Heaven's Gate.

I don't think laying bare the shambles that has been Liverpool over the past 18 months will prove lucrative at all. How many fans will watch the doc and think "that club has stumbled from one embarrassment to the next, they're the team for me", especially as it's designed to appeal to the glory hunting market?

 

Wow! Can you offer up some examples of Liverpool demanding to be recognised as a big club? Or the club insisting on MBE's and Knighthoods? Maybe some fans have said stuff like this, but all fans say stuff similar to that, that's what fans do, I don't see how this is 'crying for attention' from the club. I do remember a group of MP's calling for Dalglish to be knighted for his work with the families after Hillsborough, is this the 'cry for attention' you are talking about? Oh and Gerrard already has an MBE by the way.

The program may not prove lucrative, that remains to be seen. But I would guess that it will paint the club in a favourable light rather than be a program that lurches from one bad moment to the next. I also think that the club has probably already made a significant amount of money from the program already, Fox will have had to pay x amount to get the rights to the program, then we have the profile raising that could bring in sponsors. It is a clever way to get free advertising for your product (shirts etc), Liverpool get paid by Fox and then people see Liverpool on their TV, win win in a commercial sense!

As for your glory hunting market line, who better to target? United are miles ahead of Liverpool commercially, and they have targeted that same market with obvious success, what's the problem?

 

I know Gerrard has an MBE. There was a campaign for him to get one as it was "unfair" that Beckham had been granted one in the same way there has been a campaign to give various Liverpool managers knighthoods as it's "unfair" that both Busby and Ferguson got them!

Liverpool have been also rans for 20 years but are still loathed by neutral fans who are sick of the club's and the fans' constant demand for attention and recognition. The documentary is just the latest example.

As for chasing the glory hunter market, it seems a bizarre time to do it as Liverpool hardly have a lot to brag about at the minute!

 

You are being petty with the attention thing I think.

Who is behind these campaigns you talk of? It's not in any official capacity is it, so you are talking about fans basically. With this in mind, are you surprised that the fans want their players and managers rewarded, it's no big deal really is it!

Can you give examples of, how you put it, Liverpool fans' constant demand for attention and recognition? I'm not sure how you are quantifying this, so help me out and be a bit more specific by explaining who these fans are, how many of them are there, and why their actions are "loathed" by neutrals...again, who are you talking about here, you are quite vague with these claims.

And you still do not seemed to have grasped the idea that the documentary is a commercial enterprise designed to maximise the clubs profile and thus possibly attract sponsors, that's all it is in essence, nothing to get worked up about.

And seeing as you believe that fans (or MP's) calling for their managers to be rewarded is a cry for attention, I guess you will agree that United are similarly guilty...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/13792113

 

Christ if the Scousers see that there'll be even more of the work shy bastards picketing outside of parliament demanding for Paisley to be canonized!

 

I heard Channel 5 "won" the right to show LFC uncut. Lost is probably a more accurate way to describe it.

Liverpool can now take their rightful place on air between Big Brother and some rubbish featuring Jedward as befitting a club of such "stature".

 

Your opinion...which is treated as sh1t here...

Nothing childish about it...KKK is right for him... as a legend and a zero ...

He did say he was "sacked iwth dignity". Nonsense. Let's wait and see. I suspect he was booted out as being incompetent for squandering the club's money and dropping the club into mediocrity...

 

Probably should of spent more time running the club than making home movies.

 

That doesn't make any sense, even considering that it is an intended joke, it still doesn't make any sense!

And didn't United play a few games on that channel last year after crashing out of the CL? Or was that ITV4...I seriously don't know why I am replying to a comment about a television channel to be honest, it's not that important an issue...well it is to some people, you obviously!

Why does it matter so much to you what channel it is on? You will watch it anyway, and remember, there is the added possibility that people like you will subconsciously pay attention to the adverts on show, and in effect, you will be helping LFC financially in your own little way!

 

Yeah okay mate, it is completely adult of you to refer to him with that.

Your attempt at justifying it, 'as a legend and a zero' does not make any sense (this board is rife with that at the moment). Can you explain why referring to him with that term somehow reflects his legend status and his now 'zero' status? I can't see the thought process you have used with this, it is clear a strangulated one, so it would help if you could explain yourself...

And your suspicions may be true about his sacking, I doubt it but I suppose we will have to wait and see...the one thing I find surprising with your last comment is that for some reason you are saying LFC were not mediocre 18 months ago, fair enough if that's what you think!