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  1. Zanjinho

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    Any offside stats? Nunez must be running away with it...
     
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    He lives offside.

    Lazily offside though cos when he is actually focused and making run in the box he isn't offside often.

    When the ball is up the other end he seems to just totally switch off and is often offside
     
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    He runs about a fair bit closing down and into the channels so maybe he just takes his time getting back to have a breather?
     
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    Meh.

    When your sides defending and you are 3 yards offside when a clearance comes up its really just lazy.

    Stand on half way ffs.

    He has shown he's not another cisse. I swear that lad never heard of the offside rule he was caught that many times, nunez can run the line well enough when he wants but he just has a lot of these bad habits. A lot of polishing required
     
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    Wasn't excusing it, just looking why it might be happening
     
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  6. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Nunez js pretty good at timing his actual runs to be fair to him. Think sometimes he’s just not being played in early enough though. Was couple times in arsenal game where he was making the run but diaz held onto ball and by time he then went to release it nunez was off.

    Hopefully things like that will develop as season goes on. Diaz does like to hold onto ball so it’s whether klopp wants to coach him to release quicker, or keep doing that and other forwards needs to adapt to it
     
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    I think he's just a bit too eager. Needs to start slightly deeper; he's often already or on the verge of being offside before starting his run. He also needs to arch his runs more too.

    I don't think many players make an early darting run when Diaz has the ball, they know he likes to hang on to it for a while.
     
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    51.4% of our goals this season have been against Ballmouth and Rangers
     
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    in fairness though....

    2 v arsenal
    3 v brighton
    2 v newcastle
    0 v everton
    1 v man utd
    1 v palace
    2 v fulham

    so ignoring bournemouth thats 11 from 7 which while not as amazing as last year doesn't look a s bad as the goals against column.

    3 v arsenal
    3 v brighton
    1 v newcastle
    0 v everton
    2 v man utd
    1 v palace
    2 v fulham

    we've conceded 12 in 7 which is much much much worse than last season
     
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    Its a bit early given the postponements

    Bottom half: goals/game scored 3 goals conceded 0.75 - 75% of games drawn
    Top half: goals/game scored 2 goals conceded 2.3 - 25% of games drawn, 50% lost

    Just to be clear, our results last season were

    Botom half Goals per game scored 2.70 Goals conceded per game 0.40
    top half Goals per game scored 2.11 Goals conceded per game 0.9


    we can see that we ae getting walked through, the few games played so far don't really show a terrible tail off in goals scored.

    we keep throwing in terrible goals. the rangers one was absolutely pitiful.
     
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    Alisson has more assists this season than Thiago, Hendo and Fabinho
     
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    upload_2022-10-17_11-18-50.png

    amazing how a couple goals makes all the difference. 1 v palace, 1 v Brighton 1 v Fulham. that's 6 points we don't have that would put us in 4th

    Our 9-0 v Bournemouth throws the numbers all off.

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    another little interesting fact, arsenal have actually no done as well against the lower teams than others.

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    Look at spurs. its early days on this table but spurs have been negative and gotten beaten in the big games.

    Kind of interesting to note how bad utd were v the minnows before they opened the wallet for ten haag. Really can see the impact of the final days of the transfer window in thier results since.
     
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    LIVERPOOL have won 23 prem games against reigning champions- seven more than any other side. And Jurgen Klopp's side last 14 such home games (W8 D6)

    MAN CITY lost a Prem away game for the first time since they were beaten by Tottenham in Aug 2021, ending what was the longest unbeaten away run in their league history (22 games)

    MO SALAH has been directly involved in 14 goals against Manchester City in all competitions with nine strikes of his own and another five assists for his Liverpool team - mates. That is more than he has managed against any opponent as a Red player.
     
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  14. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Vvd still undefeated in the prem at Anfield for liverpool - 69 games now
     
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    2017 was last time we lost a league game at Anfield in front of fans as well. Only time we’ve lost at Anfield in that time was during the covid season with no fans (when lost 6 on the bounce without vvd and many other defenders).
     
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    Statistics for Man City game.

    Just to show the difference in "level" delivered in intensity.

    It should also be noted the team ran 118.5km which is as high as anything we have achieved in the last 3 seasons

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    Tackles made - they had most of the ball
    Possession won- they had the ball in our defensive 3rd a lot so of course this goes up.
    Same for ball recoveries.

    We just plain worked harder imo and hit them on the break with our most lethal weapon, mo salah on the break up against one guy.

    West sham will be a totally different ball game cos they will not ever leave mo salah up against one man.
     
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    Think stats on their own are a bit misleading. We will have run more, made more tackles etc because city had the majority of the ball so you will run more and tackle more than other games where we have 70% possession for example.

    But, agree we just seemed to put more effort in and was almost like players knew that had a point to prove. I think they knew that against city anything less than 100% and would get hammered.
     
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    Generally agree with that but MITO said over the last three seasons meaning it's higher than other games against Man City too
     
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    I think we only match or exceed it 3 times over 5 years.

    Absolutely when you don't have the ball you have to work but we've had the ball and ranas well and that was what was missing.

    Jota and elliott really worked very had. Firmino went missing in terms of on the ball stuff but off the ball he was working really had for the side. salah did salah things.
     
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    That’s cos normally we are on decent form and it’s more of an even game. We def played this one as the underdog, sat in deeper and looked to counter.
     
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