Why does Levy want our manager to work with an assistant & dof that isn't the managers choice? can you ask him!
Possibly because Levy thinks he knows AVB's strengths and weaknesses and wants to cover them. Outside football it is really unusual for a newly hired manager to be able to change the whole team around on day 1. Why should football be different
But we're not discussing outside football, this is solely about what works in football, and a manager has to work with people he can trust, share the same vision and can work together. Employing a manager and then hiring staff that aren't his first choice, or are people he wouldn't want to work with, is counter productive, or do you feel otherwise?
Anything can work - often an organisation will split a job up when it becomes too big to do properly and provided the two people understand what they are responsible for it doesn't matter if they are working for each other or on the same level. Comolli and Jol seemed to have no sort of working relationship and that caused the problems not the way they were set up.
Txiki Begiristain? Reports are suggesting that Baldini's not interested. Time will tell, I guess. The Mirror's named both of those as targets.
Why should football be different - everyone will work best in that environment? I take your point about hiring over someone's head but I'm not sure that is really what has happened. You often see big companies hiring a CEO and say a Finance Director at the same time because the Board thinks they will bring different qualities to the team. Personally I'd be suspicious of hiring any manager of anything who told me his first move would be to change all his immediate reports as this would imply to me that he thought my organisation was not properly functional. Although in the case of Harry's support team I'd make an exception.....
The reason it should be different is because in football the working relationships at the club, have a major impact on the morale of the manager, and how the manager interacts with players and staff and it can effect team performance. Say we have a manager and assistant, that don't share the same vision, but have to work together, in the end that will cause problems in terms of performance as the players want to see a management team that are all united. We could have an assistant manager that is great at what he does, individually, but if the manager doesn't like the guy, or can't relate to him, then it doesn't matter how talented the assistant is, it will cause problems, and that is why i feel football is different to business, in terms of putting together teams of staff.
I agree that the team has to work together and share the same vision but I think this is true everywhere, not just football and it is rarely if ever achieved by sacking the previous team when a new manager comes in. A high quality manager will get the best out of the team he inherits.
That doesn't make it different from anything else imo. Morale (bad) is a massive performance hinderance in virtually any job i would've thought.
Yes morale is important in all jobs, but in business you can have two people working together that don't get along, but they can work together to achieve success. In football, would you have a DOF & Manager work together that don't get along, and an assistant and manager that don't get along, but still get success? thats my main point.
Ok, gotcha. The alternative argument though is that if 2 people can work together in another industry without morale being affected then why can't the same happen in football?
True, I don't have the complete answer for that! but a lot of it must come down to Ego and a manager feeling they are the most important person at the club, so when they have staff interfering with the club, and staff they don't want to work with, i guess it causes issues.
Good answer I did wonder about the egos and whether that was a factor. However, from my experience quite a few people high up the corporate ladder have massive, unwarranted egos. I guess the manager/player relationship is a particularly close/personal one compared to the director(manager)/employee bod relationship and therefore maybe the morale gets trasmitted down that much more easily. I dunno. On paper, with a couple of grown ups in the position, i don't see why DoF can't be brought in over the manager. Extra credit - why am i so demoralised? #AVBsFault ???
The issue is that the role of Manager is far more important in football compared to business. In business a Director would set out the way work is completed and a manager would implement. In football, everything should revolve around the manager and players, the Directors role is only to give them the tools to do their jobs, not tell them how to do them.
That is sort of what I meant about semantics earlier - I don't think the 'Director' of football should have to be 'senior' to the manager or coach. The job that is commonly called 'manager' in an English FC would be called CEO in any other organisation. But I still think it is too big a job and theoretically could be split up with success, subject to the correct working relationships
Txiki Begiristain. Just think, if we had Aitor Begiristain Mujicawho partnered with Luis Andre de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas, we're just a F, K, Q, X and Z short of having the full alphabet as our management team!
Txiki Begiristain...this is the imbecile that thought 40m AND! Samuel Eto, was a good price Ibrahimovich!...I hope barge poles are at the ready!
