I voted but it's a difficult one. When something becomes a habit it's difficult to break and the habit at Spurs is to sack but more importantly the habit is to appoint the wrong man in the first place.
levy panicking
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If I was Spurs' chairman I would clarify with the manager prior to appointment what his aims and objectives were and how he could achieve them. I would only lose confidence in him if he started to do the opposite of what he said he could do or shouted his mouth of in public about matters that should be kept private. Coincidentally I think I would have sacked each of our managers except for Jol at about the same time that Levy did
That's where I felt AVB shot himself in the foot: when he was hired the press release mentioned how he'd use the young players at the club, yet with the exception of Townsend and Caulker (who he sold after a season anyway) the only times any of the youngsters featured was in five minute cameos in Europa League games we were three goals up in.
How long did Koeman need at Saints to get a team of strangers winning matches?
You've won one more game than us, one game that you were second best in until the opposition went down to ten men. Getting your gloating in while you can, I suppose.
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That's fine, in theory, but in practice it's a recipe for disaster.
Levy is only interested in a manager who can "guarantee" him top 4, and any manager going for the Spurs job is going to tell Levy what Levy wants to hear (on the basis that, if the manager doesn't tell Levy what Levy wants to hear, he won't get appointed to the job). The problem for us is that we are not a top 4 side, and no manager can properly "guarantee" that he'll get us top 4.
And there's no point in any candidate coming forward to give Levy a dressing-down, saying to "I won't get top 4 or even necessarily top 7, but I will use this as a development season to push on next season, provided you give me the green light to get shot of those players I don't want and use all the funds to bring in the players I do want," because Levy expects top 4.
This is the very reason I wrote, before the season even began, that Levy has to come out and announce publicly that he knows we will struggle to get top 4, but what he wants to see, instead, is a steady improvement in the development of the squad. That would be the best way to relieve pressure on Poch - or any manager who comes in. The fact that Levy hasn't come out and said anything like that indicates strongly that he expects top 4, which means that our managers always risk getting sacked when, inevitably, the squad does not deliver.
If we are to break this negative cycle, Levy either has to change his stance, or resign.
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As much as I like the Saints, it's absolutely the case that they are currently punching well above their weight. No way will they be able to sustain the kind of form they showed last season. It will end in tears, but I don't think Saints will get relegated.
If you look at the squads of Chelsea, City, Goons, etc - then look at ours, you can see what we're up against. To achieve top 4 with our current squad needs a magician, not a manager!
I wasn't present at any of the discussion between Levy and our managers but that all sounds bollocks to me. It's much more likely that the discussion is along the lines of what is needed to maximise the chances of top 4 and then the guy comes in and after a few matches does something completely different.
So after losing our 4th home match of the season, producing terrible football against villa, stoke, a terrible second half in europe, a pretty mer performance v struggling brighton and a terrible 2nd half v the toon ... all in the past 3 weeks...do we think levy will hit the panic button?
I am genuinely lost for an answer...3 managers between dec 13 and now is a farce, but MP is doing no better than the other 2 and the football produce in the last 3 weeks (toon, brighton, villa, Europe and stoke) ... a decent half v toon and a decent half in Europe is about as good as it gets.
I didnt understand why avb was chosen, or sherwood, or MP... I do not understand why we have a DoF when our most successful period under redknapp we didnt need one...I do not understand why every player whois willing to work hard such as holtby, dawson, sandro, lennon has been sold or frozen out while lazy players such as ade are a shoe in...I do not understand why we play 1 up frontwhen we do not have a striker suited to do this...I do not understand selling defoe and not replacing him...or buying a 10m left back snd then playing rose instead...or buying a strikerand notplaying to his strengths...
We are a mess resembling the ramos team but I honestly have no idea whatwe should do...we playeverton and chelsea in thenext few games and lakaku and costa will destroy us
I didnt understand why avb was chosen, or sherwood, or MP... I do not understand why we have a DoF when our most successful period under redknapp we didnt need one...I do not understand why every player whois willing to work hard such as holtby, dawson, sandro, lennon has been sold or frozen out while lazy players such as ade are a shoe in...I do not understand why we play 1 up frontwhen we do not have a striker suited to do this...I do not understand selling defoe and not replacing him...or buying a 10m left back snd then playing rose instead...or buying a strikerand notplaying to his strengths...
We are a mess resembling the ramos team but I honestly have no idea whatwe should do...we playeverton and chelsea in thenext few games and lakaku and costa will destroy us
What a genuinely terrifying prospect. I think I might hibernate for the winter!
I stated at the start that Poch is too immature and nothing has changed my mind. A steady firm head is needed.
Handyman posted that it didn't take Koeman long to get Saints winning matches, how true. But it didn't take Harry long to get Spurs winning matches did it? Why? Spurs were the first team last century to do the double and the first to win a European trophy. We set precedents, standards, we were the top club and we need the top names to do it again.
Handyman posted that it didn't take Koeman long to get Saints winning matches, how true. But it didn't take Harry long to get Spurs winning matches did it? Why? Spurs were the first team last century to do the double and the first to win a European trophy. We set precedents, standards, we were the top club and we need the top names to do it again.
flaspur, we had top names didn't we? If Harry had behaved himself with taxes etc we could still have had him. Graham and bungs etc. Sometimes to be successful this sort of misbehaviour has to be overlooked and the idiots are given one damned good bollocking, told to forget it, everybody does and just gets on with the job. Where the hell are the people who could take a good shouting at with strength of character, admit they were wrong and play football? A chairman and a coach or coach and player have a little tiff and they part company sniveling.
Spurs will be alright but with the right man coaching.
Spurs will be alright but with the right man coaching.