Transfer Rumours Let's ignore the big ****ing elephant and blame the latest manager, again. Are we nearly there yet?
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Apart from a select few within OT nobody else knows **** all about who we intended to sign during this window - not Sky, not Talk Sport - nobody ****ing knows yet the back pages are littered with failed deals, snubbed approaches, mother's demanding x, y and z and all the rest of it. Yes the de Jong deal has become a saga, but not through any failings on our part - we've made the offer, Barca have accepted but we haven't been able to agree terms with the player due to a dispute over his deferred wages , which we knew nothing about and has **** all to do with our negotiations to progress the deal. The player himself is causing the delay, end of.
As for all the rest of it, it is nothing more than gutter journalism with no actual quotes from any of the parties involved. For all we know EtH might have all the players he wanted for this window - with the exception of de Jong. There are almost three weeks of the window left - let's everyone clam down and see what else may/may not happen
As for all the rest of it, it is nothing more than gutter journalism with no actual quotes from any of the parties involved. For all we know EtH might have all the players he wanted for this window - with the exception of de Jong. There are almost three weeks of the window left - let's everyone clam down and see what else may/may not happen
Hold fire on that thought Christian. It's important to read the exact details/wording of what's being reported. The devil is literally in the detail.
1) When the press are reporting that Chelsea are close to a deal, it makes it sound like they're close to buying him. That's not true. What it means is an agreement on price with Barca. Something we've already done a month ago. Fabrizio Romano has stated this morning that Chelsea are only just considering making an offer to Barca.
2) Also, United allegedly have personal terms agreed with Frenkie's agent.
3) And everywhere is reporting that Chelsea are going for a double swoop for Aubamayeng and De Jong. Chelsea themselves havecsaid they've made no offer for Auba and he's just an option they're considering.
I'd wait until this saga plays out before posting anything tbh.
BTW if De Jong doesn't come to us and/or does go to Chelsea, don't buy the media driven ABU rhetotic that United can't attract the big players. 16 years ago a certain Michael Ballack was heavily coveted by Fergie. He thought at the time United were on the decline and chose Chelsea. Something he has publicly said. This sort of stuff happens regardless. We went on to win league titles and the CL btw.
Perfect example of journo bollocks - Rashford is of interest to PSG - complete speculative nonsense.......
It remains to be seen now if PSG formalise their interest in Rashford following discussions with his camp, although it seems unlikely that United would even consider letting their attacker leave the club this summer, particularly given head coach Erik ten Hag wants to sign another forward before the transfer window shuts.
It remains to be seen now if PSG formalise their interest in Rashford following discussions with his camp, although it seems unlikely that United would even consider letting their attacker leave the club this summer, particularly given head coach Erik ten Hag wants to sign another forward before the transfer window shuts.
I agree with the points that CS raised from the sole perspective of how much time we have burned chasing one player that may not be the final jig in the puzzle. It is painful to understand how we could have spent the whole of the summer basically fkin around politicking. Even if we end up getting the player, the nature of this deal may end up bringing unnecessary pressure on the player who would be expected almost instantly deliver the goods. This is the cascading effect of how bad our transfer policy is. Think of every player that we have bought in this manner over the last few years. The prolonged drama became the highlight of their of their United careers.
At my age the memory lets me down, please name them all.
De Jong's situation will be decided in days I think. We can wait that long.
The ONLY thing that'll fck me off at the end of all this is:
1) He stays at Barca - because then there's no excuses from us wasting a whole transfer window on him.
2) We lose him to the chavs because they were prepared to pay the £17m and we weren't.
I'm still hopeful he'll be coming to us.
We wouldn't lose deJong to the Chavs solely on the basis that they coughed up the extra 17m - which, if I'm not wrong, isn't allowed under FIFA rules.
Anyway, we might lose out because they have offloaded two players to Barca at surprisingly low transfer fees (go figure) plus they are looking to take two of Barca's most expensive wage earners off the books for inflated transfer fees - that's why we'd lose him.
Which is why I said "because", meaning if that was the reason for the loss then I would consider that a failure on our part. If we lose out to chavs for other reasons then so be it, we can't do anything about that. As for FIFA rules... please come on.
I know I've read that debts owing or payments due to players cannot be included in any transfer payment. Of course it can be circumvented
Exactly, I can imagine the price suddenly being £87m instead of £70m. The club can say they owe him £17m and pay it any way they want.
Lets see what happens, we're a long way off that anyway.
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If true, this of course means there's now little or no pressure on Barca to sell De Jong. Or to honour his £17m.
It means De Jong would have to want to push the move himself. Errrrmmmm not sure he's exactly been keen to do that.
IF the above is true, the chances of a deal happening has just nose-dived.
It's a strange world we live in when a player (apparently) wants to stay at a club who have asked him to leave, reneged on a defered pay agreement, given him a pay cut, and agreed his transfer to another club, possibly even two.
His wife must really, really, really like living in Barcelona.
His wife must really, really, really like living in Barcelona.
The way they've treated him, regardless of any transfer, I can't see him playing for the club again.
It is incredible. My only assumption (and it's been in my mind for a while) is that it was his dream club because of Cruyff (another Dutchman) who is considered such a legend there, and that De Jong wants to emulate that. And he knows if he leaves that's his one chance over with, as it's highly unlikely he'll ever get another.
You know this is why I'm not believing a thing until it actually happens.
Twitter and all that bollocks is just noise, these cretins are just windmilliing and anyone takes it 100% on board as the truth is utterly baffling.
I don't know what de Jong 'wants', and wouldn't pretend that I do.
I do know human nature though, and it's very hard to believe any bloke in his right mind, after being treated in such a way, would be 'desperate' to stay at a club like Barca ****ing lona.
He must be extremely idealistic and borderline stupid if this Cruyff thing is what is driving his decision making.
Equally, I really question the wellness of all the players that are all lining up to join that fkin club. It is truly unbelievable! Footballers huh!
I don't know what De Jong wants. I only suggested what I thought to him wanting to stay. Nothing to do with social media at all.
Or very confident in his own ability?
That second part is what I find strange. It's nothing new though. They treated a legend like Koeman like a **** decades ago and have been doing so since, including Etoo. But players still come.