Transfer Rumours Let's ignore the big ****ing elephant and blame the latest manager, again. Are we nearly there yet?

Think it was Jenas last night that more or less said the same, standard of defending over here has resulted in high scoring games so far this season - aka, abysmal defenders.

When the supposed best CB in the world () is part of a team that ships in 7 against Aston Villa, you know something's ****ed.

 

Think he's signed for you mate, just waiting on your OS for an announcement.

Seen a bit of hate for it on Twitter, think it's a great signing tbh. Yeah costly in wages but he's been one of Europe's top strikers for years, experience alone should help your front three out, can see him banging in a few as well.

Me and Spurly said we'd have liked him at Spurs a couple times but knew the wages side would be difficult for us.

 

We've got a couple of very promising home grown centre halves who fit the bill of being ball players and fast to go alongside Maguire.

The problem is, I don't think we have coaches or management competent enough to put them in the side. We've seen the deterioration of our centre halves before our eyes, we obviously don't have anyone capable of coaching them.

I actually think buying a centre half solves nothing. Unless you're taking about Chiellini or Ramos to add some actual experience and defending art to the squad.

Maguire is a good player, he's being dragged down to level of ****e around and in front if him at the moment.

 

As we don't actually have wingers but we now have two decent (I assume, can't say I've seen much) attacking full backs in Telles and Dalot, couldn't we play three centre halves and do away with this desperate need to protect a pair of centre halves with a lumbering DCM?

Henderson in goal, Telles left wing back, Dalot right wing back.

Maguire in the middle with Wan Bissaka to his right and Tuanzebe to his left.

Midfield three of DVB, McTominey and Fernandes.

Rashford and Cavani/Martial up front.

Fred, Greenwood, Mata, Lindelof, TFM, Pogba, James, Matic, Shaw options off the bench.

That's a decent enough set of players, surely?? Surely!!

Might need someone to actually manage and coach that idea though.

 

I still have flashbacks of Van Gaal because Ole would probably make the same mess of it.

I can see both Telles and Dalot being pinned back and end up with a back 5!

 

Dalot has signed for AC Milan - apart from that ....

 

Well yeah, that doesn't help obviously.

So we've now got three left backs and one right back.

Great management.

 

Piss poor wage bill management

 

Eh?

If you think all of these decidions are Woodward's alone, Solskjaer may as well just walk out of the door. Why is he staying if none of these decisions are his?

 

Telles can play either side as full-back.

OK so we've signed a winger for £20m plus add-ons from Atlanta that we've been scouting since he was 15. He's 18 now and supposed to be the shizzle! He can play either wing as well.

He joins us in January except there's still some question mark over him getting a work permit.

 

So much negativity after three games in is actually quite pathetic. Some of you need to lighten up and relax, it's just a game ........

 

Could be wrong here but i think Williams is naturally a RB. He would fit your plan

 

That's quite a glib stance on this.

Yes, it's only a game. One that I can go and watch in the park if I want I suppose.

What's actually happening is that the football club is being mismanaged from top to bottom and is being ****ed in the arse by its owners. Sorry if i'm not complicit in that happening.

We can all speak again when we've lost to Newcastle next week, see how happy clappy we all are about it then.

 

I didn’t know much about Traore, but from everything that I’ve seen on YouTube, I’m not excited by this. Not because he’s not a quality prospect, but because I didn’t see anything new in his gameplay that we don’t already have in the squad.

For one, his preferred foot is left. How many left footed players do we have again? We are crowded with them! Why bring in another one when what we need is a real right winger. From the videos, every time there is an opening on the right, he always looks to cut back to his left and rarely crosses the ball into the 18 yard with his right. That is the distinct gap in the squad.

As for the other option in Sancho, I’m glad we didn’t spend €120m on him. I read that he was disappointed that we didn’t meet Dortmund’s valuation him. Fk that! There’s already big ego red flag there. Don’t need that!

You only have to look at the long history of expensive exports from the German league to know that most of them tend to fail to live up to the expectation. Yet they never come for cheap. Further, every recent record signing that we’ve had has failed. Pogba, Maguire, etc. That’s not to say that the next mega million signing will fail, but we undoubtedly have a horrible record in that quarters. Maybe it’s the pressure on those players, maybe they get paid too much, or maybe we are all just clowns.

 

I didn't mean it to sound glib, I just intended to lift the mood a little. I'm the same as everyone else - pissed off that a few piss poor results can set the mood for the next few games. Maguire hasn't become piss poor because of Ole - we all know the answer to that, he needs to get through the international break, get his head together and get some focus back in his game. The same for Rashford - to my mind half his head is on feeding needy children (a very noble cause) but not on the days when he's getting paid to bang in the goals - the same for Greenwood, he's out of sorts too.

Shaw is crap, a liability, so its good that we have cover, a clever and tough player for Williams to learn from. Cavani will fill in for Martial on those days when he can't be arsed (of which there were many last season before he found some form) - so all in all, given that Woody is a tight bastard, we've done not bad. Lets see how it all pans out. If it goes tits up by Christmas we know that Poch is waiting in the wings and that next summer we will try to sign Kane but Woody won't sign the cheque.

 

So, given we didn't sign an actual right winger we can use yet, and the one we signed is very much for the future. Or at least I hope he's for the future, and isn't made the focal point for fan stick like Dan James became when he wasn't instantly brilliant every game.

I'd say the front three now has to be Martial Cavani and Rashford. Cavani has to start, how can he not?

I guess Rashford moves to the right, given Martial is clearly better off the left and that Dan James has now been completely written off.

Three behind of DVB, McTominay and Fernandes.

Not sure how that can't work? I genuinely can't, what am I missing?

Yes, the centre halves are **** (or one is at least, with the impact taking its toll in the others form) but that front six should be giving any team enough to think about.

And that's without other options in Greenwood, Fred, Pogba, Mata, James, Ighalo.

I'm just baffled by how **** we are. What could possibly be the issue here?

 

Pogba - he's like a kid who gets to the end of a jigsaw puzzle with one piece left over only to discover it's from a completely different puzzle, a piece that somehow got put in the wrong box. Every single game he has played has been a crap performance - so many unforced errors, too easily dispossessed, the predictable (and now playable) diagonal pass into the 18 yard box - he is a one trick pony and should be gone in the summer window. Mc T, Fernandes, DVB with Fred/Matic as alternatives is a versatile midfield, the front line should kick on and as the season progresses I do believe our defence will gel.

 

I'm just surprised that Phelan who was pivotal in United keeping such a tight defence during one of our greatest periods of success suddenly can't coach the current crop to be even reasonably good.

There has to be some culpibility in the players here? Or is there a real lack of understanding or joined up thinking between Ole and Phelan in their approaches?

In fact the more I think about it, the more I wonder what mixed messages the players are getting (from Ole, Carrick and Phelan) and who's actually in charge because on Sunday the players looked like headless chickens.

 

We have more or less the same players and the same coaches we had last season. from mid Jan onward we played some really good stuff and looked like we were developing a style which suited the squad.
Now i can only see three things that may have changed this season, the players have not got the rhythm back yet, the coaches are suddenly (and inexplicably) demanding something different or (as was suggested on Sky but i find no reason for) the players have downed tools.

I am going for the first at the moment. I can see no reason the coaches would suddenly change something that was starting to produce and other than Pogba i see no real problems in the squad and since he is playing every game and has just signed a contract extension see no reason for him to cause disruption (unless he want's his own choice of manager )

 

Do you not think the problems were there when we came back after the lockdown? So I don't think it's do with getting their rhythm back

The good football we were playing at the start of the year was largely down to Fernandes... without Pogba.

Coincidentally that period after the lockdown was when Pogba came back.

If it isn't the coaching then the problem lies somewhere in there