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Transfer Rumours Let's ignore the big ****ing elephant and blame the latest manager, again. Are we nearly there yet?

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  1. cytrax

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    It is fkin stupid! Read an article today that was suggesting that the club hasn’t learn anything referencing Greenwood’s situation and how the club is failing young men. Like wtf?? The club is now responsible for how people manage their relationships or who they get with? It is preposterous that these pigs write things to further incense hate against the club.

    There really should be a court injunction against revealing the names of people that have not been found guilty of assaults because it turns out that in various cases, the accused is either innocent, or there is not enough evidence to support the claim. If they are innocent, by the time the case gets to that point, tremendous irreparable damage is usually done and dusted.
     
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    Sadly, bashing the biggest and the best has long been a popular pastime for the British media and is unlikely ever to change. As for not naming the accused will never happen, while information is in the public domain, the press will pounce on it and will continue to argue that it is the right of a free press to replicate information that is already out there.
     
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    Then in that case, the club should stand by innocent until proven guilty. Obviously Greenwood’s case was far more egregious with pictures and audio. But in the case of Antony, he should remain part of the squad until otherwise found guilty.
     
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    The difference is that Greenwood had been charged and the judicial process was underway pending trial, Antony has yet to be interviewed under caution by police (as far as we know) and as such ought to be free to play for the club until such time as that situation changes. If and when it does, it follows that he will be suspended by the club, as was Greenwood. As has already been said, while Antony has yet to fulfil his full promise, we are fortunate to have a number of talented players who are more than able to play at much the same level. Hopefully the club are actively planning for that contingency.
     
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    Rumours sancho is off today..

    Not sure how I feel about it really. He’s been pretty useless overall and another expensive flop to go alongside plenty of others in the last ten years.
     
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  6. cytrax

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    Question should really be asked why so many players that come in end up being flops. Clearly, there is something systematically wrong with the functioning of the club which does not allow most players to flourish. We have wasted so much money and talents in the last ten years with absolutely nothing to show for it.

    It is likely that the systematic problem has more to do with Woodward as the administrator. And I have to hope that slowly we will turn a page on that era.
     
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    Sadly, it would appear that even the Saudis don't want Sancho. It was suggested that a loan deal was on offer but they baulked at the option to buy fee of £50m plus. So we're stuck with CR Mk2.
     
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  8. Chief

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    In this case, it sounds like his own attitude.
    He's apparently lazy, and often late, and only wants to play where he thinks he should, which is off the left.

    Has a poor attitude to the idea of playing on the right, for instance. Which is just ****ing mad seeing as he's right footed and had Rashford and now Garnacho ahead if him on the left. Can't be arsed to challenge Antony for a place!! He should be willing to play anywhere.

    This is what comes out of United, that it's all down to him and he's had every opportunity to flourish.

    Woodward will have had zero say on anything but his transfer fee and contract, I can't see how this affects his attitude at the club.
     
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    Then hopefully he’s the last of that entitled list of players that we have spent so much money acquiring.
     
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    Antony also seems to behave as if he is another 'precious' soul, all the other signings seem to have settled well and are willing to fight for the club. At some point soon we are going to field a really solid side, Hojlund up front, Rashford on the left, Antony/Garnacho/Shoretire on the right and a midfield of Amrabat, Casemiro and Fernandez. Behind then a settled defence in front of a physical keeper and we should be ready to go. Patience needed.
     
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    Boom! There you go - Antony on indefinite leave of absence. Inevitable given the Greenwood situation and the current climate. This is what you get when you start paying kids (and that's what they really are) obscene sums of money, they fall into the orbit of all sorts of people, in situations that they aren't prepared for. At this rate we'll be fielding our U23 side by the end of the season.
     
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    Which makes Sancho's current attitude all the more bewildering.

    Why that idiot can't target the right side forward position with Antony out of the way is beyond me.

    But, only wants to play off the left or something!!
     
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    Time for Shoretire to shine or, my preference, give Garnacho a try on the right, Rashford on the left and Hojlund in the middle.
     
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    I think the timeline was out of sync because the blow up happened before Antony’s news of being dropped by Brazil.

    It is just incredible that we have £160m pounds of talent and it now looks like neither of them will be available to play.

    Pellistri should also get a chance. He tends to have good tenacity when he plays on the right.
     
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    The coming weeks could well br a test of TH's management skills. Can he coax a tune out of Sancho, because he was a very good player at Dortmund? Having said that, there are probably only two clubs that are subjected to as much scrutiny as Manchester United, the much loved Real Madrid and Barca. The weight of expectation for a player who cost £70m + can weigh heavily on his shoulders. Perhaps Sancho himself needs to help himself as well. If he is kind of depressed, then he needs medical help. Perhaps a spell on loan at Blackpool would help, then he would see how fortunate he is!
     
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    In other relevant news:
    Pogba tests positive for testosterone and faces a ban of up to 4 years.

    His career has gone from strength to strength since he left us.
     
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    Are you actually talking about footballers? lol

    Overall, £70m is not the end of the world in today’s market. Even then it wasn’t like crazy amount to pay given his record coming in from Germany. He needs to get his head straight nonetheless and play wherever he is needed for the team that has stood by him.
     
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    We know that clubs in the past had chaplains that any player could approach if they had a problem. I suppose the modern day equivalent would be a counsellor or psychologist. We know they are millionaires but that does not suffice if they have mental problems. I hope for Sancho's sake he can recover his best form.
     
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    Lot of good it has done him as the last time I saw him play he had just come on as a substitute for Juve in a Europa League qf and nearly gave the tie away. He made Harry Maguire look like a sublime footballer.
     
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    I agree! Combination of greed, sense of entitlement, and overall losing the grip on the purpose of it all when you have nothing else to strive for materially and their value outside of football pitch. It surely can take the toll on the mind.

    Pogba is definitively a case in point of all the above. Sancho needs to get back to the basics of fighting for the team before self.
     
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