Yes very good post indeed Ivor, lets hope we get a response on Saturday! Nothing but a goal feast will do............ please log in to view this image Breezy whats up with you?? chill will you................ please log in to view this image
To much negativity & these last 4 games are more of an Everton , Tottenham , Newcastle & QPR story than a Swan one in my opinion ... just credit where credit's due I suppose although we had some good play during the better part of these games . A 4 game losing streak , with 5 games to play sitting on 39 points ... somebody pinch me ,it's hard to believe .
I do have to agree with Cracker, not on the "Ivor's post was crap" part though. There has been alot of negativity on here the last few days. Okay, rightly so maybe, but chins up, it's not asif were actually in the relegation spots. I am a die hard fan and I hate losing, but at the end of the day, each team has it's blip in the season, and to be fair we havn't had one until now. Let's not let this negativity get through to the players else it will make matter worse. Remember, this is our FIRST season in the PL. It's not asif were an established PL team that has finished in the top 8 for the past 6 season.
As for Manager of the Year, the players have blown Buck (with his help) out of the water on that one. It would be a travesty if Lambert didn't win it. He has instilled in his team everything that we lack - pride, passion, energy, high tempo play, teamwork and tactics. If that doesn't do it, I don't know what will. absolutely right its the manager who is responsible and if he cant cope then bye bye, his one trick pony football is boring and have been found out by better more experienced managers months ago, the signs were there and he decides to increase the passing mode in our own half......how pathetic is that ....teams are taking the piss out of him and his brand of football, and its making fans home and away and commentators bored ****less....If he cant change and we continue to get beat having most of the possession then he will have to go,,,,its as simple as that....
I don't count using the "Reply With Quote" function as copy and paste. Nothing wrong with copy and paste if the source is identified and it's it's not misleading when used in isolation. Actually, the "Reply with Quote" function is quite dangerous as you can make someone say something they've never actually said. Perhaps the supermods should have a look at that.
Breezy, Sorry I upset you with what I thought was an honest, constructive analysis. I have been delighted to applaud our Swans for all their great work thus far but what I said needed saying. Seems that Buck agrees with me in apologising for that last performance. So he should. However, Michel Vorm stated today that if we don't up our game, he can't see us getting even one more win this season. What did I say? I do feel vindicated.
...and he's right, ivor. It's all very well pretending that everything is fine and 'little old Swansea' has over-achieved. Fact is this team is capable of so much more than the dross served up the other night and we should be afraid to say it.
Didn't upset me Ivor . To analysis in a constructive manner would show a bigger picture . We were total crap against QPR , for the first time this season , but QPR are starting to gel . There last 2 home games were wins against Liverpool & Arsenal , I'm sure it had something to do with our game . Tottenham & Newcastle are both vying for that final " Champions League " spot . Everton ( who has more top flight League trophies , before the Premier League than Man U ) have lost once in 13 games . I found your post to be a bit disrespectful toward these 4 on form teams in your analysis in that it was all down to us losing without any input from the opposition , that's all . I also thought your idea of Buck needing an assistant coach , to steer him around better , a bit over the top ... Cheers !
Losing is not an issue. It's part of the game. Winning is also not a cause to put the blinkers on, although it's easy to look past things that need addressing when there's three points in your pocket. And it's got nothing to do with who we are playing, how good they are and what they are playing for. What's important is the manner in which our game is played, the mental focus and competitive edge applied, the degree to which players work when they are dog tired, when they are being beat, when others need support; whether they stand their ground when they know they're going to take a hit (either blocking a shot or making or receiving a challenge). When having an off day how they graft to minimize the damage or turn it into a good day. Basically, like every other Jack that goes to work, how they do their job. At their job, they have been trending from sublime (v Fulham) to utter crap (v QPR), with all manner of bad habits compounding and just bad plain bad football on display. This is not acceptable. This will get the club in deep **** and quick. We gained zero points from a possible 12 in the last four games and most importantly we have not competed at the level we have demonstrated we can. If Vorm really did say what he is quoted as saying then there needs to be a major adjustment all round. It's not about being grateful or satisifed that we're in the Prem and isn't it wonderful we're here and blah, blah, blah. We have raised and set our bar, and we need to bring it at that level every week. Cause the reality is, if we don't, we don't compete - and not competing is not acceptable.
That is a big call with Arsenal sitting in 3rd place. As an outsider, I think you may be asking a lot of your team right now. It has been a long season for them. They have performed so well, some would suggest above their ability. I am sure they are mentally starting to struggle to stay as motivated as some of the more seasoned teams, or a team that is battling against relegation. You will stay up this year. That is 100%. The test will be for Rogers to work out how to ensure you can stay up again next year if you are going to use the same style again. But don't worry about all of that just yet. This season, no matter happens over the last few games, has been incredible for you guys, and you have some time to get ready for the new season. Give the man a chance!
losing once is going to happen, losing twice is very unlucky and still not a problem if you know why we lost and everyone and the manager said we will get better, lose three and we have a problem, a big problem and again the manager comes out and say we will get it right at qpr, we end up losing big time by 3 easy for them goals and that is unacceptable at any club, all 4 games we had most of the possession but did not look like we would benefit from that and the reason is you cant score in your own half except an own goal.....now if rodgers and the players acknowledge that we must up our game then why the hell are they still playing the same boring non productive football, ......if vorm can say we may never win another game then there is unrest in the club at the way brendan is ordering them to play and if that is true and we do lose the remaining games then he has to go as we cant allow this rubbish own half keep the ball crap to carry on next season whether we are in the premiership or the championship.....
Vorm is only stating the obvious though isn't he? Play that way again and we won't win another game. As Rodgers has rightly said all this talk of QPR's 'game plan' is bollocks. Everton, Toon and Spurs had a game plan. We gifted that game to Rangers by not capitalising on their rather edgy first half display (until the goal on 43 mins) and they took their chances well thereafter. No complaints. As for the arsenal comparison I think it's the style of play that has been mentioned, Siam - in fairness to the resident numpty. The fact they are in third only means they have better players.
your the resident numpty kangaroo ....nobody else, who is it who call fellow fans names because you dont agree with their views..
No, I actually call you names because you're the type of individual who at the best of times posts some daft (yes I'm being polite) comments on here, but whenever the Swans have a bad run you go insane and turn on everyone, from the manager (who has done brilliantly for us) to poor Danny Graham (who has got 12 goals in his first season with 5 games left) to our style of play (that delivered us Prem footie and won admirers from everywhere) . 606 all over again. "We'll never get promoted under Jenkins, FACT" ring a bell?
Yeah, I understood that. But Arsenal's style is far more aggressive and focuses on goasl. I don't think Swansea has the same style (and why should they?), and if Arsenal have better players does that not mean they are delivering the game plan at a higher level? I just meant to say that suggesting only Arsenal come close to playing that style seems wrong. But I don't want that to detract from the main point which is don't let a limp in to the finish line worry you too much now when you have crossed the finish line already for this season If you start next season, with 5 losses then I can see the reasons for the gloom
ignoring superswan 'professional complainer' 99, i think the majority of fans are delighted (people on here and people i've spoken to) with the work BR has done and his players... i've never understood chairmen who sack a manager who got them promoted (mccarthy, di matteo etc)...after fulham people got too carried away and they're getting carried away now....rodgers has done fantastically but i dont think he is manager of the year, i've said before it should go to lambert and some people on here would probably say the same...... i can see superswan and those brand of fans jumping on rodgers back if they have a bad start next season...you need to get behind the team because rodgers knows 100 times more about football than all of us combined,...
For those of you who are interested, I am reproducing the gist of the excellent article by Vorm via Chris Wathan in today's Western Mail. As Vorm has endorsed so many of my opinions, I am pleased to point out that I posted my article BEFORE this appeared. I will paraphrase the article in the interest of brevity and, where capitals are used, they are mine for the purpose of emphasis. MICHEL VORM REVEALS BRENDAN RODGERS' FURY OVER SWANSEA CITY'S DEFEAT AT QPR. MV has revealed how BR read the riot act to his players following their midweek meltdown at Loftus Road. And in a brutally honest assessment of the team's loss of form, the Dutch goalkeeper has warned THEY WON'T WIN ANOTHER GAME THIS SEASON IF THEY REPEAT SUCH A DISMAL DISPLAY. While the run of defeats has raised eyebrows, it was the MANNER of the latest that was the true cause for Rodgers' dressing room dressing down on Wednesday night. And, pulling no punches, Vorm backed his manager's appraisal as he described the performance as RIDICULOUS, the WORST of the campaign and called for a dramatic improvement against Blackburn. "You can always lose games but the way we played was the worst this season. We got what we deserved," said Vorm. "The way we lost was ridiculous. I have to apologise to all the fans because they come and support us every time. The manager said at half time that he didn't understand our performance. The tempo was TOO SLOW and the only chances they created were from mistakes by us. Then the second half was even poorer than the first." "The manager made his feelings known and everything he said made sense and was totally right. At this time of season, you cannot play in matches the way we did BECAUSE YOU WILL LOSE EVERY GAME. The performance is the biggest disappointment because if we play like this WE WON'T WIN ANY GAMES BEFORE THE END OF THE SEASON. IF WE PLAY LIKE WE DID AT QPR THEN WE WILL LOSE ALL FIVE." BR was already angry at the interval at Loftus Road, spending just a few minutes in the changing rooms before returning to the dug-out. The Ulsterman hauled off NT and WR before later insisting that he could have CHANGED THE WHOLE SIDE. And his ire only grew over the next 45 minutes, Swansea management staff ordering players back to the away fans at the final whistle to offer an apologetic appreciation for having to witness such a weak display. Vorm added his name to the extensive list of Swansea squad members to apologise to fans for the display, admitting the showing "LOOKED LIKE WE DIDN'T CARE". And with Blackburn in town tomorrow, desperate for a win, Vorm added: "We have to do much, much better. Especially for the supporters against Blackburn, otherwise, we will have a tough end of the season. I'm not going to say we owe them a performance because we owed them A COUPLE OF MATCHES AGO." Interesting that last sentence. Despite what we all thought were reasonable, if losing, performances in the previous three games, Vorm is suggesting, no, he's saying, that actually, things were below par then. So there we have it. At least Buck has shown the players he has teeth and it will be interesting to see how this translates in tomorrow's performance. Now, let's get together and cheer our team over the line against Blackburn, because, despite all our criticism (justified), for the most part we all realise the lads have done us proud.
